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kwramm wrote:

fbrdphreak wrote:Honestly I'd say your problem isn't the HDD itself, it is the fact that you're trying to do multiple disk operations at once. WHile with a 3.5" drive you certainly get better performance, you're still going to be gridlocked for I/O access. Multiple I/O requests generally slow everything down because HDD controllers are not good at parallel processing; NCQ is starting to help that but programs have to be designed to support it.

fair enough. but judging from this answer, the core 2 duo still won't make your system a lot faster when you work with apps that require a lot of disk access.
If you're using your TP for multimedia stuff I can imagine your workflow won't be much faster than it is now because of a CPU update. Rendering and encoding however may take a very slight boost.

Rendering and encoding are generally CPU or GPU limited, not HDD. Yes a faster HDD will improve performance somewhat, but it is not the primary bottleneck. C2D won't revolutionize your performance, but depending on what you do you'll get 5-20% improvement with no increased cost of the CPU and the same battery life. Not to mention 64-bit support for those who want it

well I just took a guess based on my observations

the core duo of the T60p is pretty fast and can compare to my desktop. However starting up 3D studio Max, AfterEffects and loading projects in those two apps takes longer - not much but it's enough to notice it. Once everything is loaded it's fine though. Every of these apps loads quite a lot of smallish files, maybe that's it? dunno. It's just not as fast, even with a defragged drive. I don't really know what else it could be other than something to do with the whole HDD thing.

How much RAM do you have?

I agree with kwramm and snife in that the most noticable performance degradation during day-to-day activities arises out of HDD I/O access, whether this is due to the HD itself, the I/O bus, the CPU controller, etc. I am not sure. I notice tremendous difference in performance between my Athlon 3800 X2 running on a SATA 150 bus vs. my T60.

fbrdphreak wrote:

snife wrote: Not only for paging but programs that are reading/writing to the hdd intensively - the hdd is my bottleneck - when downloading from newsgroups, while running a partity repair and maybe trying to unrar something big which are things I do almost everyday, it grinds to a halt and it is mainly the hdd thats at fault. I know some people say i shouldn't use a notebook for newsgroup downloads but I only use notebooks.

Honestly I'd say your problem isn't the HDD itself, it is the fact that you're trying to do multiple disk operations at once. WHile with a 3.5" drive you certainly get better performance, you're still going to be gridlocked for I/O access. Multiple I/O requests generally slow everything down because HDD controllers are not good at parallel processing; NCQ is starting to help that but programs have to be designed to support it.

Does anybody already know if the chassis and/or other (non-cpu internals) will be changed?

Since it isn't possible anymore to select a 128MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 on the T60 (the option is greyed out).
This might indicate they are trying to get rid of their stock of the current T60.

disturbedsaint wrote:Does anybody already know if the chassis and/or other (non-cpu internals) will be changed?

Since it isn't possible anymore to select a 128MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 on the T60 (the option is greyed out).
This might indicate they are trying to get rid of their stock of the current T60.

It is possible to select the 1400, actually what I don't see at all is the 1300, but you unfortunately have to select the strongest CPU for the Flexview monitor.

BR,

Robert