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T60p locking up..System Idle Process running high at 98-99%
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:27 am
by stephenaron
My T60p has been freezing up lately, and i noticed that after a reboot, i see my System Idle Process cpu # at 98-99 steadily. Seems very high. I was told that my system probabyl would freeze when running ohter programs if my idle process is almost 100 already. Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:15 pm
by Anthony S
The System Idle Process is what the name suggests. It's the process that runs when nothing else runs. So, if nothing else is running, of course, the System Idle Process is running at 99%. It's just ticking over until some other process claims the CPU.
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:52 pm
by planetf1
Can you clarify "freezing up". As the previous poster mentioned, you "expect" to see "System Idle process" taking "high CPU" - this means the system is idle
However if you see "System" taking high CPU something else may be up.
I've been experiencing a wierd problem whereby the mouse would stop moving for around 1s in every 3s. I tracked it down to some device driver activity in NDIS.sys (technical details - DPC processing, debugged with RATTV3). So far I've just applied latest XP ndis.sys fixes to see if it goes away.
I was going to write up a blog on this, does the symptom bear any resemblence to yours?
freezing up
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:05 pm
by stephenaron
To clarify...In the Windows Task Manager......under Processes,...i see System Idle Process....and under the CPU column, its showing 98-99 allmost all of the time. Is that ok?
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:22 pm
by planetf1
yes
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:11 pm
by jamies
planetf1 wrote:I've been experiencing a wierd problem whereby the mouse would stop moving for around 1s in every 3s. I tracked it down to some device driver activity in NDIS.sys (technical details - DPC processing, debugged with RATTV3). So far I've just applied latest XP ndis.sys fixes to see if it goes away.
I too have been having 1-2 blue screen lockups per day due to NDIS.sys. I wish I knew what it was!
locking up
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:25 pm
by stephenaron
How do you know its NDIS? Mine freezes completely, so i cant check anything, nor do i get error msgs.
Re: locking up
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:33 pm
by jamies
stephenaron wrote:How do you know its NDIS? Mine freezes completely, so i cant check anything, nor do i get error msgs.
I see blue screens that reference NDIS.sys.
locking up
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:31 pm
by stephenaron
ah....

THat would explain that. Mine just freezes up and i need to hold the power button down to turn it off.
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:48 pm
by planetf1
What I have is neither a blue screen nor a total lockup.
The system works, but freezes for 0.5-1.0s every 2.0s or so. So not very usable.
I know it's NDIS.SYS from use of the RATTV3 tool from microsoft.
Whether the latest hotfixed fix my problem is yet to be proven.
So to repeat
- I have no *total* freezes
- I have no blue screens
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:08 am
by planetf1
.. and still getting it. It appears NDIS.SYS manages DPC for other miniport drivers, which means all my comms interfaces are now suspect
- vmware
- WECM
- Intel 3945ABG wireless
- Intel ethernet
.. Mmm. no idea how I find out which is the culprit except through trial/error
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:48 pm
by jamies
planetf1 wrote:.. and still getting it. It appears NDIS.SYS manages DPC for other miniport drivers, which means all my comms interfaces are now suspect
- vmware
- WECM
- Intel 3945ABG wireless
- Intel ethernet
.. Mmm. no idea how I find out which is the culprit except through trial/error
Thanks for keeping us posted. I've been trying things as well, and every time I think I've got a break it locks up again.
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:06 pm
by jdhurst
The network card/drivers on my desktop computer went bad (I know not why and I could not fix them - see my thread on rebuild (bah humbug)).
So try this with VMware: Uninstall it, reboot and re-install it. In my case, the bridge protocol would not re-install. Physical format and rebuild was the only solution. If your protocols install properly, then maybe try uninstalling / reinstalling winsock (KB 892889).
... JD Hurst
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:13 pm
by techie
Last time I had NDIS.SYS problems it was the Norton/Symantec firewall.
It was btw. on a T41.
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:15 pm
by planetf1
Great minds think alike... just removed SCF to go back to ZoneAlarm... see if that helps.