Upgrade to Core 2 Duo from Core Duo question

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csioucs · #1 Post by **csioucs** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:22 am

Has someone researched if the current motherboard supports Core 2 Duo with 4MB cache, not only those with 2 MB?
As I am aiming at the 2.00 ghz, very good at price/value...

maximus_ · #2 Post by **maximus_** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:47 pm

From what I have read its a direct fit for the Merom processor. I plan on picking up a T60P and dropping in the Core 2 Duo... Lenovo is taking to long to realse the processor and I need to a new laptop NOW....

stephenaron · #3 Post by **stephenaron** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:08 pm

I too have a t60p, and want to upgrade the processor. When and how?

xaveon · #4 Post by **xaveon** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:38 pm

What is the price for the 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo? I'm trying to find it on Newegg but can't seem to find it.

I would upgrade if it would allow the hardware to support 4GB of RAM instead of 3GB.

zyphria · #5 Post by **zyphria** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:12 pm

In lots of 1000, $294.

From a vendor, $340. http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20148

semaj · #6 Post by **semaj** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:55 pm

will I be able to fully utilize this new memron chip in my t60p? What are the benifits or drawbacks?

smap77 · #7 Post by **smap77** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:16 am

Hmmm. Interesting. What's the big deal here again? or said otherwise... why would you spend the time and money and hassle to swap out a perfectly good Yonah to get an extra 2MB on the L2 Cache of a Merom? (and that only on the chips rated at or above 2 GHz). Or is it the extra 3 degrees on the Thermal Design Profile?

And can anyone confirm the wikipedia quote "Intel has stated that the first version of Merom is drop-in compatible with the current Core Duo platform, requiring at most a BIOS update."? Somehow I don't have high hopes that Lenovo would successfully endeavor to and pull off a BIOS update for, say, my t60p...

xaveon · #8 Post by **xaveon** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:49 am

Honestly though, is there really a point? Yes it's a 64-Bit processor but if you're using WinXP Pro, it won't even utilize the 64-Bit power. And like most Windows it takes a couple years to get good. I feel that WinXP is just now getting good.

I used to be into the newest and greatest, and never understood why these old "fogies" were still using Win2k. After you start using your computer for "real life" work (the kind of work that makes you money), you start appriciating reliability more than performance.

Kamika007z · #9 Post by **Kamika007z** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:46 am

Also, I must warn you all: I wouldn't install a Core 2 Duo in your T60's untill Lenovo/IBM release a new BIOS that is capable of using it's full potential. Otherwise, there will be a high chance of unstability.

I read on one site, (I forget the link) that dropped in a Core 2 Duo processor in a Dell Latitude originally running a Core Duo and faced problems.

Also, I'm not that all impressed with the Core 2 Duo in comparision to the Core Duo. While the desktop processor has achived greater success from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo, the notebook counterpart is not as "great" in performance gains. I would wait till Intel releases the next motherboard that will fully utilize this processor even better for notebooks.

Ender17 · #10 Post by **Ender17** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:42 pm

here is a good comparison

Mobile CPU Wars: Core 2 Duo vs. Core Duo
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=2808

semaj · #11 Post by **semaj** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:56 pm

By looking at the table in the link above it raises the question, what chipset does my t60p laptop have?

csioucs · #12 Post by **csioucs** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:39 am

Guys, yes this IS interesting, but from the anandtech comparison the better part from Core 2 Duo is to small to be noticed at a reasonable level...that's what I think...and it seems that for marketing purposes C2D is compared to Normal Pentium M in the XPS review on notebookreview, not to Core Duo, which is very, very close behind...

maximus_ · #13 Post by **maximus_** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:07 pm

64 Bit support and 10%-20% preformance is worth the price to me.

mattbiernat · #14 Post by **mattbiernat** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:31 pm

csioucs wrote:Guys, yes this IS interesting, but from the anandtech comparison the better part from Core 2 Duo is to small to be noticed at a reasonable level...that's what I think...and it seems that for marketing purposes C2D is compared to Normal Pentium M in the XPS review on notebookreview, not to Core Duo, which is very, very close behind...

and i was hoping notebook review would be relatively unbiased place to read reviews. i guess not. or am i jumping into conclusions?

csioucs · #15 Post by **csioucs** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:16 am

@ Yes @ maximus_ 64bit support is worth the Upgrade...but it will be worth the price when 64bit software and windows will be mainstream. Although it is tempting to push the need by having it and having 4gigs of ram in your machine, and address it all...well it is nice, but for some of us it seems like an upgrade from warp 7 to warp 7.5 or 7.8 so to speak...yes, the technology is always worthy as long as it brings benefits...and those full benefits lie in the future, albeit near. I am going to wait until then, not far away, but, then the price WILL drop, as the new platform that will outdate ours will come. IMHO Then we are going to have 8.8 out of warp 9

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(But 10 percent to 20 percent in office use...is like 0.050 seconds to open adobe reader and to scroll and well the better is ...erm like 0.0450 or 0.039 or something like that...in the benchmark of the eye and feel. Because in real life many more things count on a computer...how clean the registry is...how fragmented the drive is...and so on....so yes it IS an upgrade...That for budgetconscious me will wait a bit.

duffy · #16 Post by **duffy** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:32 am

Lenovo is going to have to release a new BIOS before you guys can drop in a Merom. I tried to do the upgrade a few weeks ago with no luck. The machine won't POST with a Merom ES (engineering sample) installed. The same CPU works fine in my Dell.

maximus_ · #17 Post by **maximus_** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:45 am

duffy wrote:Lenovo is going to have to release a new BIOS before you guys can drop in a Merom. I tried to do the upgrade a few weeks ago with no luck. The machine won't POST with a Merom ES (engineering sample) installed. The same CPU works fine in my Dell.

Thanks for the information I may just wait a few weeks for them to release the T60p with the merom...

dekagon · #18 Post by **dekagon** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:26 am

Hello all,

I can say, that with the actual Bios Release 1.11 for the T60/p Series,
it is not possible to exchange the Yonah to the Merom Version.

This was testet with BIOS 1.09a AND 1.11 from 09/14 !

I made this Tests with an new T60p Model 2007-FHG with a 2GHz Yonah Cpu inside and a T7400 (2,13 GHz) Yonah ES Sample...

So we have to wait for the next Bios Release...

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