T60 vs Vaio SZ240F

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T60 vs Vaio SZ240F

#1 Post by rleo25 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:40 pm

I need your advice on what machine would you prefer between this two options, please take into account all pros and cons.

The only Thinkpad I am able to get here in Colombia from Lenovo is a T60 (model 195125S) a very entry level configuration. What pisses me off is the poor graphics department of such model. I need some real state to do autocad architectonic drawings and handle a lot of multimedia files.

The T60 main specs are: CoreDuo T2400. 512RAM, XGA+GMA950, 60GB SATA 5400rpm, no bluetooth.

The option is a VAIO VGN-SZ240F, CoreDuo T2400, 1GB DDR2 RAM, TFT 13.3"(1280x800) Hybrid graphics system NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 Turbocache 128MB + GMA950, 100GB SATA.

Price is no problem.

What would you buy guys?

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#2 Post by o1001010 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:25 pm

you are gotta be kidding me right? a lenovo vs sony...
ahahhaah

thinkpad, it's a no brainer. sony laptop sucks hardcore
very easy to break
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#3 Post by Kyocera » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:33 pm

Well I wonder what answer you'll get from the Sony Vaio forum.....Oh wait.......there isn't one!

Sorry I had to go there after trying to fix a friends Vaio. Anyways..
the thinkpad.


If price is no problem go for SXGA+. Or just get a t60p

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Re: T60 vs Vaio SZ240F

#4 Post by mattbiernat » Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:40 pm

GMA is no good for serious 3D graphics.
on the other hand sony might brake after awhile.
so if i was you and really needed to do some heavy graphics i would get sony with some serious warranty.
on the other hand i heard some people putting extra graphic card into docking station.

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#5 Post by agarza » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:16 am

I'm from Mexico, and also Lenovo sells entry level machines (with integrated graphics) NOT DEDICATED at very high prices.

I got my T42p from a woman who no longer works @ IBM Guadalajara Mexico and told me about the entry level machines, that for sure you could get a high-end T60p (1GB DDR, 256MB FireGL,...) but you'll have to call Lenovo and ask them for the Premium machine as you have a Business that needs a powerful laptop with integrated graphics.

Try calling them, not just buying from the lame site that just displays the low-end configurations.

Hope this helps

P.S. And by the way, IBM/Lenovo is the way to go buying a laptop.
My T42p is the third laptop I own from IBM (A22e, T30) and those machines still work flawlessly without any cracked cases or anything.

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#6 Post by rleo25 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:42 am

Well guys, it happens sometimes you get wrong conclutions from appearance, and Vaio's screen had dazzled me. Well I have no doubt now, thanks for your advice, I am trying to get the T60 directly from USA. benottomex I have a daughter in DF, and has been unable to find something over there

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#7 Post by rleo25 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:56 pm

This is my lucky day!!! 8) A Lenovo's representative phoned me up this evening and offered the machine I was looking for: Coreduo T2500, Ati Mobility Radeon x1400, 14.1"SXGA (1400x1050) 1GB RAM, 100GB HD!!! only bad news is that I'll get it in a month as it comes directly from factory (???) I'll place my order tomorrow and begining the 30 days countdown!!! Will keep ya informed...

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#8 Post by JohnDrake » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:35 am

First thing you should do...burn recovery CD's...on good name brand CDR media. It will take a few disks...can't remember if it is 8 or not....

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#9 Post by GomJabbar » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:49 am

JohnDrake wrote:First thing you should do...burn recovery CD's...on good name brand CDR media. It will take a few disks...can't remember if it is 8 or not....
Excellent advice that too few users follow. They wait until they have a serious problem, and then sometimes it's too late.

Yes, this is the best time to make these discs. Oftentimes as soon as a new ThinkPad arrives, there are a number of software updates and software installs that get applied. Sometimes these go wrong. What better time to restore to factory state and start over. One should be able to do this from the service partition on the hard disk, but if that doesn't work, there are the Product Recovery Discs to fall back on. They also become invaluable for the time when one needs to replace, or chooses to upgrade the hard drive.
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#10 Post by Zeitgeist » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:24 am

JohnDrake wrote:First thing you should do...burn recovery CD's...on good name brand CDR media. It will take a few disks...can't remember if it is 8 or not....
One CD and one DVD.
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#11 Post by archer6 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:50 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Yes, this is the best time to make these discs. Oftentimes as soon as a new ThinkPad arrives, there are a number of software updates and software installs that get applied. Sometimes these go wrong. What better time to restore to factory state and start over. One should be able to do this from the service partition on the hard disk, but if that doesn't work, there are the Product Recovery Discs to fall back on. They also become invaluable for the time when one needs to replace, or chooses to upgrade the hard drive.
Precisely!

The amount of time it takes to make these when you first unpack the computer is minimal. Especially compared to the amount of time one spends when problems arise. It has been my experience that there is no better or more valuable investment of time and a few blank discs than in the beginning before loading any software, setting any preferences or changing anything from the out of the box defaults.

Once you have made these rescue discs and the need arises to use them, suddenly they become priceless... :D
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#12 Post by Ted_E » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:59 pm

Zeitgeist wrote:
JohnDrake wrote:First thing you should do...burn recovery CD's...on good name brand CDR media. It will take a few disks...can't remember if it is 8 or not....
One CD and one DVD.
There is a product called DFSee that will make an image of your drive (or partition). You can buy it for approx US$63. It is convenient to get since you download the product and burn your own bootable CD. You can make and save an image of your drive as often as you wish so you do not have to go back to square one and re-install everything. It is available from
http://www.fsys.nl/dfsee/index.php or
http://www.mensys.net/dfsee/
It's a pretty versatile piece of kit since it does for
"Platforms: DOS, eComStation, Linux, OS/2, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows XP"
and handles partitioning as well.

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