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Widescreen T60 - Countdown and Rumors

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:54 am
by GXCross
With the unavailability of the T60p's with 1600x1200 screens, I had almost purchased a Dell D820. But in the end, I've decided to just stick it out. Now I'm anxiously waiting for the arrival of the new widescreen T-series. It appears to be coming by the end of the month.. so I figured it's about time to start a thread to collect any and all news about its release. I'll start with some links:

Original rumor from Laptop Logic:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=1256

Scheduled Widescreen T-series Workshop at Harvard for 11/30:
http://www.uis.harvard.edu/technology_s ... kshops.php

I also spoke with a Lenovo sales rep today. He says that they just went through sales training for the new widescreen T-series, although he doesn't know exactly when they will be released just yet. But he did say that they are identical in specs to the current T-series, except that they have the widescreen.

Anyone else hear any rumors or more details on this upcoming release?

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:15 am
by ronan_zj
what happen to Z series then???
no one will get Z tho.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:41 am
by christopher_wolf
The Z Series is still the most media-oriented of all the extant lineages of Thinkpads, so I don't think that they will be undercutting themselves with a Widescreen T Series. :)

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:13 am
by SuperNova+
I also spoke with a Lenovo sales rep today. He says that they just went through sales training for the new widescreen T-series, although he doesn't know exactly when they will be released just yet. But he did say that they are identical in specs to the current T-series, except that they have the widescreen.
I still don't get it, so the widescreen T will basically be a slim version of the Z? I don't see the point of Z's existence once the widescreen T is released.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:49 am
by iatacs19
I am guessing the Z-series will come down in price or the wide-T will only be available with the 14in widescreen. So if you want a widescreen > 14in then you get the Z-series.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:22 am
by getlow
maybe they'll put in a higher end graphics in the Z, like an x1600 or x1700??

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:56 am
by SuperNova+
maybe they'll put in a higher end graphics in the Z, like an x1600 or x1700??
I will be more than happy if they do that, however I feel the chance is next to zero because the T series is always considered the flagship of the thinkpad.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:06 pm
by WPWoodJr
My salesrep recently told me that the new widescreen T60p will be released Dec 1 and will have a 1680x1050 15.4" IPS screen.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:11 pm
by GXCross
WPWoodJr wrote:My salesrep recently told me that the new widescreen T60p will be released Dec 1 and will have a 1680x1050 IPS screen.
Good to know, thanks! I hope they also have a 1920x1200 version too.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:16 pm
by WPWoodJr
In this thread(http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... c&start=30) kjjb0204 says that a T61p with a WUXGA screen is coming spring 2007.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:44 am
by kjjb0204
The T60 wides will be announced 11/28. We've pre-ordered with Lenovo and will have stock upon announce. Not a ton of model choices yet, and no WUXGA so far, but it's coming. First models are WXGA and WSXGA. T60P coming in a few months.

Regarding T wides vs Z - T series are much lighter, thinner than Z. I have a Z60M, T60P and X60. The Z stays on the counter because it's so heavy. The T hangs out on my couch, and the X goes to work with me every day and on the plane....

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:50 am
by SuperNova+
The T60 wides will be announced 11/28. We've pre-ordered with Lenovo and will have stock upon announce. Not a ton of model choices yet, and no WUXGA so far, but it's coming. First models are WXGA and WSXGA. T60P coming in a few months.

Regarding T wides vs Z - T series are much lighter, thinner than Z. I have a Z60M, T60P and X60. The Z stays on the counter because it's so heavy. The T hangs out on my couch, and the X goes to work with me every day and on the plane....
So, the wide T will be the same as the regular T except the screen?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:55 am
by WPWoodJr
kjjb0204 wrote:The T60 wides will be announced 11/28. We've pre-ordered with Lenovo and will have stock upon announce. Not a ton of model choices yet, and no WUXGA so far, but it's coming. First models are WXGA and WSXGA. T60P coming in a few months.
Do you agree with my sales rep that one of these models will be a 15.4" IPS WSXGA T60p?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:44 pm
by Kel Ghu
SuperNova+ wrote:
maybe they'll put in a higher end graphics in the Z, like an x1600 or x1700??
I will be more than happy if they do that, however I feel the chance is next to zero because the T series is always considered the flagship of the thinkpad.
What you guys talkin about? You have a V5200 with the Z61p. I would rather ask myself why do I have a T60p... The Z serie with the V5200 is cheaper than my T60p and has everything I need with it, even more.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:24 pm
by kjjb0204
Yeah, it has everything the T60p has, and more, including another two pounds. If weight is an issue, the T is your choice over the Z.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:47 pm
by Kel Ghu
what are you talkin about?!? The 15"4 Z61p is 2.69kg vs 2.48kg for the 14"1 T60p. That's a 0.462 pound difference... That's not much of a difference considering the different screen size.

T60p 14"1: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/ch/products.nsf/ ... enDocument

Z61p 15"4: http://www5.pc.ibm.com/ch/products.nsf/ ... ocument#pf

Now, it's only a matter of size...

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:06 pm
by coz007
kjjb0204 my whole school financial status is dependent on me ordering a laptop by DECEMBER 1. How positive are you that the widescreen T will be announced on the 28th. Also I have a quote for a regular 4:3 screen. Do you think since a widescreen costs less to produce then a 4:3 screen that I will be able to switch screens and keep the same quote?

Just need to be positive that the widescreen can be ordered on the 28th

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:46 pm
by MountainMan
WPWoodJr wrote:
kjjb0204 wrote:The T60 wides will be announced 11/28. We've pre-ordered with Lenovo and will have stock upon announce. Not a ton of model choices yet, and no WUXGA so far, but it's coming. First models are WXGA and WSXGA. T60P coming in a few months.
Do you agree with my sales rep that one of these models will be a 15.4" IPS WSXGA T60p?
kjjb0204: eager to hear if you have any more to say about this.
will there be a WSXGA T60p on 12/1? or no wide T60p's of any kind until next year?

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:29 pm
by kjjb0204
Hi. Yes, there are 15.4 wsxga+ models as well as wxga models, some with core 2 duo, some with core duo.

General Announce date is 11/28 for sure. You'll be able to see them on the announcement letters database.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:46 pm
by WPWoodJr
kjjb0204 wrote:Hi. Yes, there are 15.4 wsxga+ models as well as wxga models, some with core 2 duo, some with core duo.

General Announce date is 11/28 for sure. You'll be able to see them on the announcement letters database.
Kjjb0204, are they announcing a widescreen "P" model too?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:49 pm
by kjjb0204
WPWoodJr wrote:
kjjb0204 wrote:Hi. Yes, there are 15.4 wsxga+ models as well as wxga models, some with core 2 duo, some with core duo.

General Announce date is 11/28 for sure. You'll be able to see them on the announcement letters database.
Kjjb0204, are they announcing a widescreen "P" model too?

Eventually, but the initial models will be T60 with WXGA or WSXGA+.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:53 pm
by fbrdphreak
How do you know?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:56 pm
by kjjb0204
Have preannounce info from Lenovo.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:05 pm
by fbrdphreak
Don't they usually ask you to sign agreements stating you won't tell anyone? :)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:07 pm
by kjjb0204
It's all on Lenovo's business partner portal on the thinkpad transition documents. Any Lenovo authorized reseller can find the information.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:17 pm
by WPWoodJr
Are you sure? My Lenovo sales guy sent me some specs which indicated that a T60p widescreen flexview 1400x1050 would debut on Dec 1.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:20 pm
by coz007
My rep just told me that he talked to a tech and that the widescreens will only be available in 15.4. Is this true? Does anyone have confirmation on a 14" widescreen?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:28 pm
by kjjb0204
I only know of the 15.4 wides. Haven't seen or heard anything about a 14 wide.

Sorry, Yes, there will be a T60P WSXGA+ with the 256mb ATI FireGL, but I was really thinking of a T60P with the coveted WUXGA. Those won't be out just yet.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:35 pm
by WPWoodJr
kjjb0204 wrote:I only know of the 15.4 wides. Haven't seen or heard anything about a 14 wide.

Sorry, Yes, there will be a T60P WSXGA+ with the 256mb ATI FireGL, but I was really thinking of a T60P with the coveted WUXGA. Those won't be out just yet.
Sorry to be such a pain, but can you confirm if it will be an IPS/Flexview screen? Or will it be the same 1680x1050 screen as on the Z61m?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:14 pm
by kjjb0204
hmmm, not sure on the WUXGA. on the wsxga+, there will be some ips panels in the fray.