Thinkpads Forum

I dont know if my experience is good.
I have been using Lenovo for 8 years. My first computer, back to 1998, was Lenovo( it was called Legend at that time). I do believe Lenovo has been dealing with IBM for a long time because Lenovo was only one IBM service agent in China.
To my experisce, Lenovo has good customer services, my older laptop had been repaired 5 times from Lenovo...(gee..). And DVD rom on my Desktop had been exchanged 4 times( I not they give me repaired one, not new one).
Still, Lenovo is the best computer company in China, maybe not here, and I am fully trust its quality on Thinkpad.
I should say sorry for this post , because it confuses a lot of ppl here, for I did not know IBM has different kind of keyboards.
One thing I am not satisfy with Lenovo policy is: Lenovo changes Return Policy and Dead pixel issue? ( thats why it makes feel I am purely dealing with chinese merchandise----Return is impossible.) if I am wrong, please correct me.

christopher_wolf wrote:

nxman wrote:Sorry to say but Lenovo doesn't use top quality materials like IBM
Many T60 users has noticed the downgrade in quality

Again, do you have quantitative, conclusive proof of this?

I have to say, I have seen statements like this ("IBM Good, Lenovo Bad") in the T60 threads now and they serve literally no purpose other than to clutter the thread and drag it off-topic. Keep in mind that the conference that dealt with that subject was closed and archived due to, interestingly enough, lack of posts. If nothing interesting could have been said along those lines in that conference where it was meant to be said, then it is in serious question whether anything meaningful about it can be stated in *this* conference.

Let's try to stay on-topic with sane claims, please.

Yes i do!

First i work in a company that only uses IBM ThinkPad&Centre

I used IBM's A51+R40 +R51+T42 and never had a problem with
Them

And Lenovo's A60+ Z60m+T60 now
I had lots of trouble with all of them!!!

I never had a problem with IBM machines before

1 : After i received my Z60m it died suddenly and Lenovo replaced
The motherboard and now it has countless dead pixels!!!

2 : My T60 has a very bad & noisy keyboard the right side
makes more noise than the left side!!!

3 : flex and squeezing sound on my palm rest! add to that 2 dead pixels three weeks after using the notebook!!!

3 : after replacing our A50 ThinkCentre with the new A60 models
And LCD's we had to send many machines for problems and most
LCD's have dead pixels and light leakage.

We never had these problem before with IBM products
I will say the truth whether you like it or not i don't have a problem
With Lenovo i'm not an american and i don't live in the USA
I buy chinese products all the time i really think from my experience
That Lenovo is downgrading the Thinkpad quality and
if they keep doing so they will lose there loyal Thinkpad customers.
Including me!
This is the truth Lenovo is downgrading the quality of ex IBM Products If that doesn't make you happy ill lie and ill say that Lenovo is improving the quality of IBM products would that make you happy?

I have had many Thinkpads, working and using them almost everyday since 1995, and I have had a fair share of problems; but, with a large majority of T60s and a few Z Series Thinkpads I have looked after recently, there have been no such problems and nothing on the order of that. 3 systems is hardly a statistically significant sample complared to the majority. Although that is a discussion for another subject.

This thread is not about general quality lack in the newer products (nor does it have anything to do with chinese products or making me happy; don't know where those ideas came from). This is, according to the subject, on keyboard comparisons between the T60 and various T4X Series Thinkpads. The quality issue/concern was already mentioned once *before* and it does not help anyone to keep mentioning it again and again and again as it not only doesn't help, but gets old really fast.

That's enough, for now.

Nebzar wrote:I think that the quantity of noise made by each keyboard is more a design decision rather than a matter of quality: in fact, an audible click is a sort of feedback for the user, and is very useful when typing quickly.

I've never tried the ALPS or the NMB, but I will agree about the Chicony's ability to be used quickly. This is the only keyboard I've ever been able to break 100wpm on.

nxman wrote: 3 : flex and squeezing sound on my palm rest! add to that 2 dead pixels three weeks after using the notebook!!!

Check at: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=93562 - you will find a solution to a squeaky palm rest, on a right side above hard drive.