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I just received a T60p, and it has the infernal Windows key. Is there some secret FRU number that's a keyboard without the windows key? It's bad enough that I had to pay the "Microsoft Tax", I don't want my fingres to suffer too.

Thanks

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No, there isn't a "secret" keyboard FRU that doesn't have the Windows Key, all of the T60 Series Thinkpads have that. Just rebind it as a super/meta key modifier in Linux, just about every distro will let you use it.

Last night I binded the Windows key to execute 3ddesktop. (What a memory hog 3ddesk is!)

[quote="christopher_wolf"]No, there isn't a "secret" keyboard FRU that doesn't have the Windows Key, all of the T60 Series Thinkpads have that. Just rebind it as a super/meta key modifier in Linux, just about every distro will let you use it. :)[/quote]

That's not the point. It's *annoying*. If I wanted extra keys, I would have kept my Symbolics 3640 :)

Oh well, I'll get used to it. Maybe I'll machine a large keycap and fit it over the two posts... or maybe someone here has a access to a 3D printer I could use?

Ehh, I hate it too...but there isn't anything that I can do about it moment, so why worry after that? It literally isn't worth wasting time over, especially not hardware modification. Quite a few threads talked about that just a little before the release and during the early months. As long as the keyboard quality stays excellent, I can live with a little extra key there. I have seen systems where people put a Daemon or a Tux logo on it.

Hey jayeye,

We are having a nice discussion about this very issue and I' am trying to see what can be done (basically we are building castles in the sky hehe), but what I really am interested in, is how many people in this forum would like Lenovo to have a T4x style keyboard option for those who would really like to have it, so feel free to drop in your opinion there

DarkThinker

Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure? I recall using, in the distant past, a Greek Type M keyboard with a key between the Left Shift and the Z keys (really aggravating). Has this practice carried on into laptops?

If so, it would indicate that PC manufacturers are prepared to make shorter runs of keyboard for languages with a smaller number of speakers, and asking for a Linux keyboard may not be such an outlandish request. While we are dreaming, we may ask for the control key to go back to its proper place :)

jayeye wrote:Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure? I recall using, in the distant past, a Greek Type M keyboard with a key between the Left Shift and the Z keys (really aggravating). Has this practice carried on into laptops?

If so, it would indicate that PC manufacturers are prepared to make shorter runs of keyboard for languages with a smaller number of speakers, and asking for a Linux keyboard may not be such an outlandish request. While we are dreaming, we may ask for the control key to go back to its proper place

I think it's quiet resonable

DarkThinker

Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure?

At least between US and German keyboard, there is a physical difference. (Shift key on US is about double the width of the German keyboard's. There is another key instead)

noworrries

Since I'm moving from a 600X to a T60, here's what I miss:

o Being able to turn the thing on WITHOUT opening it.
o Fn+PgUp and Fn+PgDn controlling volume.
o Decent sized space, ctrl and alt keys

"extras" I can do without:
o TouchPad. Please let me buy a bezel without one!
o back and forward keys. AAAAAGH! Thank you so very bloody much for those.

I do actually use the menu key, but rarely the window key... and I am a programmer.