T60p SATA Hard drive bay adapter - non-lenovo drive ?

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gettingDeep · #1 Post by **gettingDeep** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:52 am

Hi All,
Has anyone used a non-lenovo drive in these adapters ?
I tried googling about it, but couldn't hit upon anything useful.
If we can use non-lenovo's, can someone direct me to some site ?

Would be interesting to know, how many people actually use it, and for what.
I bought it, 'coz I think I might use it for quick backups, and booting from it once in a while when connected to an unsecure wireless network.

DAH · #2 Post by **DAH** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:40 am

I've use one with a Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 disk drive, I've had no problems with it.

steveg47 · #3 Post by **steveg47** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:16 pm

Any sata 2.5" 9.5mm drive should work.

extrain · #4 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:09 pm

It's kind of loose without the hard drive caddy. How do you solve this problem? Can we buy the caddy from Lenovo?

own6volvos · #5 Post by **own6volvos** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:11 pm

As far as I can remember, a HD caddy is only like 10-15 bucks from the parts replacement site.

EDIT: Was this just without the rubber rails?

extrain · #6 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:17 pm

Can you give me a link to the parts replacement site? I bought one from eBay and it didn't fit very well.

DAH · #7 Post by **DAH** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:28 pm

extrain wrote:It's kind of loose without the hard drive caddy. How do you solve this problem? Can we buy the caddy from Lenovo?

It doesn't use the hard drive caddy, the instruction that come with it explicitly show removing the rubber rails.

extrain · #8 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:35 pm

The harddrive caddy I'm talking about looks like this:http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-Thinkpad-570-60 ... dZViewItem
It's not the rubber rail.

Non-Lenovo harddrive doesn't come with the caddy.

DAH · #9 Post by **DAH** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:09 pm

OK So the link you've provided is to a T42 PATA drive caddy. It will work in a 570, 600, T20, T21, T23, T30, T40, T41, T42. It's got nothing to do with a T60 SATA device bay adapter.

My SATA device bay adapter takes a 2.5" Sata hard drive directly.

steveg47 · #10 Post by **steveg47** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:38 pm

DAH wrote:OK So the link you've provided is to a T42 PATA drive caddy. It will work in a 570, 600, T20, T21, T23, T30, T40, T41, T42. It's got nothing to do with a T60 SATA device bay adapter.

My SATA device bay adapter takes a 2.5" Sata hard drive directly.

DAH, I have both the pata & sata trays and I never liked the loose way harddrives fit. When I flip down the locking bar on the back of the tray all it does is prevent the drive from sliding backward, it does not actually secure the drive in the tray. When I don't have the drive & tray in the ultrabay I secure the drive in the tray with a rubber band in case the tray gets flipped upside down in my carrying case. I wish there was a better way. Maybe the internal harddrive caddy without the rubber bumpers is the way. What do you think??

extrain · #11 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:13 pm

I also have the SATA hard drive adapter for T60. I made a caddy from hard paper and it fits snugly. I did a search and found this website:http://newmode.us/caddies/IBM.htm. The price is a bit high though and I don't know how it compares to the Lenovo caddy.

brianl · #12 Post by **brianl** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:26 pm

I used the caddy without the rubber side pieces and it fits snug.

steveg47 · #13 Post by **steveg47** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:29 pm

extrain wrote:I also have the SATA hard drive adapter for T60. I made a caddy from hard paper and it fits snugly. I did a search and found this website:http://newmode.us/caddies/IBM.htm. The price is a bit high though and I don't know how it compares to the Lenovo caddy.

Yeah, I found that site also. But for 1/2 ounce of perforated aluminum foil I'll be [censored] if I'm gonna pay $29 dollars. I'll stick to rubber bands from Staples in that case.

gettingDeep · #14 Post by **gettingDeep** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:15 pm

steveg47 - True.

However, why do you need the caddy ? I thought, you'd put the CD/DVD bay back when you are done with the HDD adapter..
Or am I on a complete tangent

extrain · #15 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:19 pm

gettingDeep wrote:steveg47 - True.

However, why do you need the caddy ?

Try to put the harddrive in the HD adapter with and without caddy and you will see the difference.

gettingDeep · #16 Post by **gettingDeep** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:30 pm

Just when I think that the thinkpad is perfect..
Does it wobble a lot, making it a hassle, or is it just plain unusable without a caddy ?

bigbear2007 · #17 Post by **bigbear2007** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:13 pm

steveg47 wrote:
DAH wrote:OK So the link you've provided is to a T42 PATA drive caddy. It will work in a 570, 600, T20, T21, T23, T30, T40, T41, T42. It's got nothing to do with a T60 SATA device bay adapter.

My SATA device bay adapter takes a 2.5" Sata hard drive directly.
DAH, I have both the pata & sata trays and I never liked the loose way harddrives fit. When I flip down the locking bar on the back of the tray all it does is prevent the drive from sliding backward, it does not actually secure the drive in the tray. When I don't have the drive & tray in the ultrabay I secure the drive in the tray with a rubber band in case the tray gets flipped upside down in my carrying case. I wish there was a better way. Maybe the internal harddrive caddy without the rubber bumpers is the way. What do you think??

I guess the best way is just tape the end of the HD to the plastic lock.

bigbear2007 · #18 Post by **bigbear2007** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:20 pm

I don't have the manual for the hd adapter but I don't recall the caddy is required according to the manual.

extrain · #19 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:55 pm

I guess it assumes that you are using a Lenovo harddrive which comes with a caddy. If you buy the harddrive from somewhere else, no caddy is included.

extrain · #20 Post by **extrain** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:13 pm

Check out my home made caddy.

http://blueturtle.zoto.com/img/original ... f5fb8-.jpg

http://blueturtle.zoto.com/img/original ... 436b1-.jpg

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Note: Please link to pictures over 50KB in size.

steveg47 · #21 Post by **steveg47** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:52 pm

Very nice, but I'm not into Oragami

gettingDeep · #22 Post by **gettingDeep** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:03 am

extrain

Thats Cool !

steveg47 · #23 Post by **steveg47** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:26 am

I guess I should clarify my comments a bit. The ultrabay drive tray design is generally acceptible. The side to side and front to back clearance with the locking bar down(no caddy) is so minimal that it's fine. My only complaint is that when the tray with the drive in it is inverted (flipped upsidedown) the drive literally hangs from the connector with no other support. This is not an issue when it is in the ultrabay; but can become a problem when the drive and tray are jostling around in my carrying case. To avoid damage when not in the ultrabay I put a rubber band around the whole unit to prevent the drive from moving. I also keep the drive and tray in a small nylon case to further protect it.
Constantly removing the drive from the tray is not recommended as the pata and sata connectors are not designed for that kind of use and will wear out.
As for paper caddys, I would feel uneasy about putting a flammable material so close to components that can get very hot.

extrain · #24 Post by **extrain** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:14 am

steveg47 wrote: As for paper caddys, I would feel uneasy about putting a flammable material so close to components that can get very hot.

Well, the working temperature of harddrive is about 100F-140F and the kindling point of paper is around 450F. I wouldn't worry about the that.

steveg47 · #25 Post by **steveg47** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:30 am

extrain wrote:
steveg47 wrote: As for paper caddys, I would feel uneasy about putting a flammable material so close to components that can get very hot.
Well, the working temperature of harddrive is about 100F-140F and the kindling point of paper is around 450F. I wouldn't worry about the that.

That's the general temp output and does not consider localized hotspots. IMO the only place paper belongs in or near a circuit is wrapped in a capacitor. Then again I tend to be overly cautious with items I've paid lots of $$$ for.
And no, I was not trying to put down your idea. Actually I thought it was quite clever.
And yes I have read Ray Bradbury's book

T60p SATA Hard drive bay adapter - non-lenovo drive ?

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