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VERY blurring FlexView even while moving windows
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:24 pm
by Seeb
I just got my new T60 with FlexView and I recognized that it is very blury (I don't know to correct translation in english, but its the
typical effect that you also have when playing fast games on a TFT
screen) even when I'm moving windows the edges blur like hell !
I play Counter-Strike from time to time and its unplayable. I really
get headache when playing more than one single minute.
The following program (no installation required - just start the .exe
and press F3 and follow the instructions) says that my display
has delays of 68ms, 88ms and 98ms.
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=302
Can someone with or without FlexView do only this part of the test
and post me the results?
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:43 pm
by dr_st
Link to the program is missing...
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:52 pm
by Puppy
Does it change when it is connected to AC power comparing to running on battery ?
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:57 pm
by Seeb
Whoups, heres the link
http://www.prad.de/download/pixperan.zip :)
@Puppy
No, it doesn't change
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:58 pm
by pinesol
I am sorry I don't understand German, so I am not able to perform the test. Anyhow, I don't play any gmae so I have not esperienced any problem with the Flexview screen.
Before I bought it, I did some research and found out that the Flexview was not for playing games. Since I don't, I bought it.
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:42 pm
by dr_st
I played DOOM3 and GTA games on my Flexview with no problems. Sometimes I'd get headaches, but that's if I was already tired.
Here's the link to the english version of the program:
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=302
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:18 pm
by Seeb
?? Strange..
Could you paste me your ms results?
Thanks for the link
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:44 pm
by pinesol
I don't know what it means. But here it is.
Graphics mode: 1280x1024 @ 32 bpp
Frame rate: 59.7 Hz
Gamma factor: -
Flag test: -
Chase test: 100(166.7ms), 100(166.7ms), 100(166.7ms)
Readability: -
Game: -
streaky graphic: -
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:16 pm
by Seeb
166ms everytime? I think you diddnt understand what to do :D
thanks anyways :]
any more results?
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:22 pm
by snessiram
I don't know if this is what you mean, but some time back, I don't know why, moving windows etc. went really slow, I could see the window "redrawed" when moving, scrolling,...
I fixed the problem by reinstalling the ATI drivers (C:\IBMTOOLS\DRIVERS\VIDEO if I'm right).
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:49 pm
by seeplus
Seeb; What video card does your thinkpad have? Intel or ATI?
If it's the intel integrated graphics, that could be part of the reason for such poor performance.
The Flexview displays' advantage is the technology behing them; S-IPS, which is inherently a bit slower than standard TFT displays at changing colors/white/black, though the newer s-ips panels are much faster than the older IPS displays.
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:56 pm
by Seeb
@snessiram
No, I don't think that this is the same.
@seeplus
I have the X1300 and my T60 came last week!
So it should have a newer IPS panel, shouldn't it ?
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:34 am
by dr_st
Your IPS panel might be a bit newer than the one installed in the T42/T43s, but I doubt its specs have changed much. It's still the LG/Philips LP150E05, perhaps a newer revision.
Anyways, the results I got were 50ms, 33ms and 39ms on my T42 Flexview, and 33ms, 22ms and 28ms on the X32. Assuming the different resolutions are not accountable, the Flexview definitely smudges a bit more.
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:39 pm
by Seeb
Yes, "a bit" :-o
Thanks to all helpers.
Re: VERY blurring FlexView even while moving windows
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:58 am
by m372
The result is correct. This is the mother nature of Flexview panel.
It's not used to look the video, just for still pictures.
Note IBM/Lenovo never said its laptop with Flexview panel is used for entertainment - means watching movie - it's only a Workstation.
Re: VERY blurring FlexView even while moving windows
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:29 am
by dr_st
m372 wrote:Note IBM/Lenovo never said its laptop with Flexview panel is used for entertainment - means watching movie - it's only a Workstation.
Movies look just fine on Flexview. Have been doing it a lot. The wide viewing angle really makes a difference, when you want to watch a movie from the couch.
