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T60 OWNERS!!!!! PLEASEEE READ THIS!! IMPORTANT
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:49 am
by mario_jr
My friends.. owners of thinkpads.. in special t60, I've just found a program over the internet ....Intel Thermal Analysis Tool.. this program is able to track the cpu temps..can stress the proc like I've never seen before.. and another features..
Here I can get 85C in each core in about one min..
I always was a cooling freak.. never saw a proc beyond 70.. Now Im asking myself.. t60 HSF is really well designed?
You can download it here.
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392
Please TEST this program an post the temps.. Iam really concernerd about it.
Update.. almost 2 min.. 91C

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:43 am
by steveg47
Don't get yourself bent out of shape. Intel rates the maximum temperature of a Core 2 Duo at 100c as compared to a desktop pentium 4 3.6 which intel rates at around 70c or less.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/detail ... Spec=SL9SE#
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:52 am
by Rwang
OP has not posted what happens after 3 mins. I guess it burned up before he could have replied.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:06 am
by steveg47
!!!! Meltdown !!!!!
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:59 pm
by mario_jr
Almost melt..
Stabilized in 95C
No thermal throttling.
This program is really nice =D
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:11 pm
by Greg Gebhardt
Why are you people so obcessed with your CPU temp.
Just relax and enjoy your laptop. It is a tool, use it and enjoy!
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:35 pm
by nxman
Greg Gebhardt wrote:Why are you people so obcessed with your CPU temp.
Just relax and enjoy your laptop. It is a tool, use it and enjoy!
Agree
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:42 pm
by jdhurst
nxman wrote:Greg Gebhardt wrote:Why are you people so obcessed with your CPU temp. Just relax and enjoy your laptop. It is a tool, use it and enjoy!
Agree
Yes. I have posted this same sentiment enough times to drive myself crazy (and accordingly no longer post about it). I have had as many as three Thinkpads lined up on my kitchen table installing them. Fan noise in total was less than ambient kitchen noise and heat was no issue at all.
I suppose some people truly have a Fan issue and some people probably have defective, overheating machines. Otherwise it is an obsession that is completely counterproductive.
... JD Hurst
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:55 pm
by steveg47
Yes, very much in line with the "Lenovo's gonna ruin the Thinkpad" paranoia. Then they point to some tiny, trivial issue and declare "See!!".
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:19 pm
by brentpresley
95C at full load for 2 cores is ACTUALLY an excellent temp.
The 2.1GHz Dothan I had in the T42 would hit that at full burn, and that has just one core.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:48 pm
by steveg47
brentpresley wrote:95C at full load for 2 cores is ACTUALLY an excellent temp.
The 2.1GHz Dothan I had in the T42 would hit that at full burn, and that has just one core.
This processor is also rated at 100c.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:42 pm
by own6volvos
I have had mine going for about 4-5 minutes now, and it just bounces between 64-70C as the clock speed shifts around. Both cores are pegged at 100% load, and its running on AC and in "performance" mode. Fan sounds like it is going about 50-75%. At first it got up to ~75C, and then once the fans started going, it stabilized around 65-68C.
2.16 Core 2 Due in my T60.
Oh yea, my desktop with a heatsink/fan the size of a 100 cd spindle maxes out at 43C. But the entire heatsink weighs more than my entire laptop

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:47 am
by NS
Reading this thread reminds me of benottomex advise. To apply artic silver 5 to the CPU.
Will that work for this case?
Been using artic silver 5 for all my thinkpads and so far all thinkpads are running cooler than normal.
Regards,
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:23 am
by own6volvos
NS wrote:Reading this thread reminds me of benottomex advise. To apply artic silver 5 to the CPU.
Will that work for this case?
Been using artic silver 5 for all my thinkpads and so far all thinkpads are running cooler than normal.
Regards,
Another thread has someone who did, and it dropped maybe 1-2C, but with it that close you dont know. The GPU thermal unit also has a special pad that might become damaged if you remove it without a brand new replacement ready.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:24 pm
by brentpresley
NS wrote:Reading this thread reminds me of benottomex advise. To apply artic silver 5 to the CPU.
Will that work for this case?
Been using artic silver 5 for all my thinkpads and so far all thinkpads are running cooler than normal.
Regards,
The following is the BEST way to get your temps down:
1) clean off the HSF and apply AS5 (per their directions)
2) download notebook hardware control and install (for dual core CPUs make sure to DL the patch)
3) use NHC and a stress program like Prime95 (Orthos for dual core chips b/c you want to stress both cores at the same time) to find the LOWEST voltage you can run your chip at EACH multiplier, then have NHC set it to that voltage on bootup
I used the above on the aforementioned T42 w/ Dothan 2.1GHz and it cut the temps at full load from 95C to 85C (which is a huge drop for a fully loaded CPU in a laptop). Testing with NHC per the above method I found my 2.1GHz chip was rock solid at 0.25V below stock.
NOTE: the above ONLY works with windows XP. There are some bugs in NHC running on Vista (and Vista doesn't like giving up control of the hardware).
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:51 pm
by mario_jr
Sorry.. for all of that.
I've made some tests using NHC to reduce the voltage of my t2400...and I was able to reduce (6 to 10) to 0,950V and mult 11 to 0,9875. All of then stable

The maximum temp barely gets 70 in 100%..( both cores at 100%) and idle about 47C.
It would be nice if we could integrate in tpfancontrol the voltage control of each mult.
thanks
