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14" T60p not available in flex view?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:28 pm
by cybyte
Why did Lenovo not make the 14" screen with flex view?

How big of a difference does flex view really make? I will want to view some dvd's and people will not always be looking straight ahead they may be to the side of the laptop screen a bit.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:40 pm
by Zeus
well, the cost difference is significant, and you can't get 14". I have a standard screen SXGA+ and I have no regrets. I love the 1400x1050 res, BTW.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:43 pm
by cybyte
The website gives the option to have a 14" or 15" screen.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:44 pm
by Zeus
the 14.1" is normal, the 15" is FlexView.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:45 pm
by cybyte
I don't mind paying extra if there is any way I can get a 14" flex view.

Is there a big difference between them? I've never owned a laptop, but I do have a Dell 17" LCD monitor and it is easy to see.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:35 am
by dr_st
You can't get a 14" Flexview. Lenovo doesn't offer one, because up to date I haven't heard of a single manufacturer that made such a panel.

As long as the PC is on eye level, side viewing angles are quite good on the non-Flexview screens. If you have no complaints on your 17" LCD, you should be able to work just fine with the 14" non-Flexview.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:48 am
by BillMorrow
i don't agree..
IPS is best..
sadly, its only now offered on 15 inch 1050x1400 AFAIK..
but
to each his own..
i find regular displays need to be positioned "just right" to be just right.. :)

OH, the tablet is flexview..

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:01 pm
by dr_st
BillMorrow wrote:i don't agree..
IPS is best..
sadly, its only now offered on 15 inch 1050x1400 AFAIK..
but
to each his own..
i find regular displays need to be positioned "just right" to be just right.. :)

OH, the tablet is flexview..
I agree with you completely. I've been thinking about getting an ultraportable, and the only one I'm considering is the X60 Tablet. Not because I need the tablet functions, and despite the fact that it's significantly heavier than the regular X60/s. The only reason is that I absolutely refuse to compromise on the screen. Once I've owned my first IPS laptop (T42), I don't ever want to go back to the regular screens.

But, I've learned that not to everyone the marvels of the screen are so important that any other considerations become secondary. I can totally understand people who want a smaller/lighter laptop, and will go for a 14" model, even if it means no Flexview.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:12 pm
by kamaleon
could one hope that they'll throw ips/flexview into the wide screens too?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:28 pm
by dr_st
kamaleon wrote:could one hope that they'll throw ips/flexview into the wide screens too?
Someone will have to make such a panel first. And manufacturers aren't too keen about it (expensive).

Re: 14" T60p not available in flex view?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:39 pm
by pianowizard
cybyte wrote:How big of a difference does flex view really make?
I owned an A31p with 15" Flexview UXGA monitor and didn't notice any difference with non-Flexview LCDs. It really depends on how picky you are.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:00 pm
by kamaleon
Judging from the pics i've seen i'd be inclined to say there is a difference, but i've never seen one live...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:17 pm
by seeplus
You can't get a 14" Flexview. Lenovo doesn't offer one, because up to date I haven't heard of a single manufacturer that made such a panel.
I've seen a 14" T42 SXGA+ with an IPS/Flexview display.. so you might be able to get (a replacement display) second hand/refurbished. Or an entire system..

here.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:32 pm
by Zeus
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:56 am
by kamaleon
Does that mean you can swap the screen from a T60 with one from a T4X?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:17 am
by npish
here's something I've been wondering: do any Mac laptops use IPS panels?

whatever the case, I can certainly say that I've never seen a more beautiful, vibrant screen than this FV on my new T60p; I agree, it'd be most undesirable to ever have to revert to a non-FV display on a future laptop (much less some awful glossy display);

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:30 am
by dr_st
seeplus wrote:I've seen a 14" T42 SXGA+ with an IPS/Flexview display.. so you might be able to get (a replacement display) second hand/refurbished. Or an entire system..

here.
99.9% that it's an error.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:37 pm
by seeplus
Does that mean you can swap the screen from a T60 with one from a T4X?
It would likely be a PITA.
99.9% that it's an error.


That ebay listing very well could be erroneous, but my co-worker has a t42 with a 14.1" SXGA+ flexview. He bought it on ebay.com December of last year.

That system was what inspired me to get my t60p :)

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:13 am
by pianowizard
seeplus wrote:That ebay listing very well could be erroneous, but my co-worker has a t42 with a 14.1" SXGA+ flexview.
How did your co-worker know it's Flexview? I agree with dr_st that there aren't 14.1" Flexview displays. I just searched for the word "Flexview" in both the tabook and the ltwbook and all occurrences of that word are for 15.0" displays.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:12 am
by seeplus
I checked the device manager after being impressed by the quality of the screen, sure enough it read "Wide viewing angle & High density Flex View display 1400x1050"

Seems that I mis-judged a 15" for a 14.1" :)