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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#271 Post by ajkula66 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:28 pm

@seiyafan:

You'll have problems with *any* screen that doesn't have a proper EDID. And the issues might be far more serious than a screen which doesn't display anything...

Stick with LCDs that already have a FRU number unless you know:

a) What manufacturer the screen was specified for or the exact pinout

b) How to flash the EDID

BTW, I'm very skeptical about the Hydis from your first link. Unlike the UXGA version, these are *very* rare screens and next to impossible to find...

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#272 Post by seiyafan » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:38 pm

ajkula66 wrote:@seiyafan:

You'll have problems with *any* screen that doesn't have a proper EDID. And the issues might be far more serious than a screen which doesn't display anything...

Stick with LCDs that already have a FRU number unless you know:

a) What manufacturer the screen was specified for or the exact pinout

b) How to flash the EDID

BTW, I'm very skeptical about the Hydis from your first link. Unlike the UXGA version, these are *very* rare screens and next to impossible to find...

My experiences only.
Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I gotta say I need to do more research before risking giving my money away. So the key thing here is that I must buy genuine lenovo screens (with exact FRU number), right?

I have contacted one vendor online that sell genuine Lenovo LCD, however I hesitated before they said it was refurbished. Does it that it could potentially have deal pixels and/or ageing backlight?

Does anyone know any place to get genuine, BRAND-NEW Flexview LCDs?

thanks again!

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#273 Post by ajkula66 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:43 pm

The only place that I'm aware of sells Hydis NOS UXGA screens only and has been mentioned in this thread a zillion times.

Even a brand new screen can have dead pixels, dust specs, hair particles...I've seen all of these.

I'd absolutely love for someone to explain to me what "refurbishing" a LCD entails...in my book it's BS, plain and simple.

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#274 Post by seiyafan » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:02 pm

I would love to get that genuine BOE UXGA screen from that ebay place too!

Maybe I will put up with the higher res. LOL! :mrgreen:

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#275 Post by seiyafan » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:27 pm

If my T60p came with LG, will I run into issues if I replace with Hydis? (if it has the lenovo FRU on it)

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#276 Post by TuuS » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:14 am

I'd absolutely love for someone to explain to me what "refurbishing" a LCD entails...
I agree, but to try to clarify, I'd consider a screen pulled from a laptop with a dead system board to be "used", and that same screen that was then connected to a working laptop to confirm that it does indeed work, to be "refurbished".

That's my own definition. I only like to sell used parts if they are well tested, but unfortunatly this requires time, so I'm not going to pull a part, install it in a system and let it run for a week then sell that part for $10. It's just way to much work to fully test a part, which is why the majority of used ebay parts being sold are simply pulled (untested) parts.

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#277 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:03 pm

TuuS wrote:
I'd consider a screen pulled from a laptop with a dead system board to be "used", and that same screen that was then connected to a working laptop to confirm that it does indeed work, to be "refurbished".
Understood, but that just goes to show how different people understand the same term - differently.

If someone were selling me a "refurbished" LCD, I'd expect a brand new CCFL at minimum, and preferably a new polarizer.

Most of "refurbished" ThinkPad stuff - unless it has IBM/Lenovo origin - is snake oil and should be viewed as such.

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#278 Post by goofyGAguy » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:22 am

seiyafan wrote:If my T60p came with LG, will I run into issues if I replace with Hydis? (if it has the lenovo FRU on it)
No. Your only "issue" would be having a much nicer display. :?

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#279 Post by thinkbui » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:14 am

This might be a dumb question, but I have a 15.4" T61 6459-CTO with what appears to be a WXGA and I'm looking to upgrade. I've posted in a new thread as well, but thought here might be more appropriate. Essentially does the fact that Type 6459-CTO is listed under IBM/Lenovo's service parts pages for WXGA, WSXGA+, and WUXGA with identical cable assemblies for all 3 mean that I can just swap out the LCD panel itself to upgrade or is there something else I need to look at before I make any kind of decision to buy a new LCD? Link to my previous post is below.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=100796

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#280 Post by underclocker » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:48 am

thinkbui wrote:Essentially does the fact that Type 6459-CTO is listed under IBM/Lenovo's service parts pages for WXGA, WSXGA+, and WUXGA with identical cable assemblies for all 3 mean that I can just swap out the LCD panel itself to upgrade or is there something else I need to look at before I make any kind of decision to buy a new LCD?
You can just swap the panel, the same LCD cable and inverter will work with any resolution panel. You should use a Lenovo panel since proper EDID information (panel firmware) is required to set the resolution.

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#281 Post by thinkbui » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:17 pm

underclocker wrote:(Please try not to double post questions.)
Yeah sorry. I was worried the thread I started was going to get locked, so I posted the same here.

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#282 Post by oldie__ » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:48 pm

AlexeyTolstyh wrote:I'm not skilled in soldering, so looks terrible, but it works ;)
Image

PS: on this panel needed contacts (DDC VCC, DDC CLOCK and DDC DATA) was not connected to anything, but some panels may be them grounded, so if you wants to solder a eeprom chip to them they must be disconnected from ground in some kind...
Dear all,

is somebody - who downloaded the picture posted by AlexeyTolstyh on Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:04 pm - willing to upload it again?
The original link is unfortunattely dead.

(the picture was showing how to solder the ATMEL AT24C04 eeprom to the LCD connector of a T6x enabling T41 SXGA+ LCD's to work on T6x)

Thanks in advance,

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#283 Post by AlexeyTolstyh » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:55 am

Fixed link to picture...

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#284 Post by Binh » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:42 am

AlexeyTolstyh wrote:Fixed link to picture...
Thank you, Alexey!
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#285 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:28 am

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#286 Post by _65536_kb_sec_ » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:10 pm

Sorry for the repost but I need some help.
OK, Finally got a T60p with quite good extras.
Anyway previously it has gotten an 15" (1600x1200) IPS screen which is not working.
Could I replace it with and IPS screen from T43 - 15" 1400x1050, with the chip mod adviced in the other thread.
the exact numbers of the "new" screen are
IDTech N150P3-L01 15" 1400x1050 IPS.
FRU:92P6680

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#287 Post by T60 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:35 am

Hi,

I was the lucky owner of a T60p with a IPS screen. I use past because my thinkpad was stolen in a train some monthes ago. Now, I'm using my old R32, but of course I'd like to buy a new laptop, probably a X220. Anyway I'd like to have a 15'' to use it at home and I'm looking to find a used or refurbished T60p.

Well, as on ebay I found a T60p 15'' SXGA with ATI 256MB in mint condition, I'd like to buy it. Looking on the photo I saw that the model number is 2007-CTO. I looked for it on the Lenovo site but they say that it's a "Configure-To-Order system" and there are not more details. (They also say it's a T60, even if on the item it's printed T60p: something of similar happened with my stolen thinkpad: I bought it as a T60, but at the end of the day was a T60p). Now, according to the list published on thinkwiki a such screen should be a IPS one, but of course I'd like to be sure before buying the laptop.

Is there anyone able to help me?

Thank you very much and best regard.

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#288 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:21 am

@T60:

Any 15" SXGA+ screen should be an IPS one on the T60/p series, presuming it wasn't changed.

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#289 Post by T60 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:26 pm

@ajkula66: Good news, thanks for your help!

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#290 Post by taichi » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:49 pm

A question for you, George.

(Probably been asked before)

How do you rate the 15 inch Flexview SXGA vs the UXGA?

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#291 Post by sinc » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:00 am

Is there a way for me to find out what screen I have in my T60p? I mean, I know it's an IPS UXGA, but to find out who made it?
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#292 Post by Peak2Peak » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:48 am

Try out PC-Wizard utility software FREE - It id's most of your installed hardware.
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#293 Post by sinc » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:18 am

Thanks,

Turns out it's a BOE-hydis. Full of dust specs though.
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#294 Post by danX » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:23 am

hello,

Big challenge on my part.
I've got a T60 2007-5DG with XGA display and a non functional R60 9461-DXG with SXGA+ display.
As far as the service manuals go, the LCD panel FRUs are not similar and I don't have the guts to go digging through both of the notebooks before doing some research.

Anybody tried this before?

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#295 Post by ssd_thinkpad » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:11 am

danX wrote:hello,

Big challenge on my part.
I've got a T60 2007-5DG with XGA display and a non functional R60 9461-DXG with SXGA+ display.
As far as the service manuals go, the LCD panel FRUs are not similar and I don't have the guts to go digging through both of the notebooks before doing some research.

Anybody tried this before?
I put a UXGA panel (with another FRU) inside a T60 with a former SXGA+ panel. The displays within the 60 series are all compatible.

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#296 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:16 am

It's a straight swap: in a T60 both XGA and SXGA+ use the same cable/inverter.
So just take the LCD out of the lid from the R60, and put it in the T60 lid.
And you could put the T60 LCD in the R60 without any problems also.
(Just a shame that the lids themselves are different, otherwise, you could swap the whole lid!)
HMM for T60: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail. ... MIGR-62733
HMM for R60: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail. ... MIGR-64200

Be careful when you remove the bezels, they may be glued to the metal edge of the LCD.
To swap both, you'd need a good hour.
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#297 Post by Worzyl » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:17 am

Anyone sporting the HV150UX1-102? I remember reading the spec sheet ages ago that it had a very quick response time (25?) and the whole SRGB thing.....
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#298 Post by Peak2Peak » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:34 am

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#299 Post by thorcik » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:10 am

As it is my first post on this board - hello, world ;)

I bought recently a 2637-AB6 with few larger spots on LCD (SXGA+ FlexView). I thought I would be able to live with that but, as I cannot, I'm thinking about replacing it with UXGA screen. I found a refurbished one at a local ebay competitor and just wanted to make sure - from what I understand the PN 13N7076 will work "out-of-the-box" with my NB, the incompatibile T42 screen has a different PN (92P6683), am I right?

Sorry for asking a question which was possibly resolved earlier but I want to make sure it will work OK.

Thanks in advance :)
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#300 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:23 pm

Provided it is an original BoeHydis screen with IBM P/N and/or FRU, yes, it will work.
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