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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#361 Post by blank001 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:26 am

Has anyone seen any flexview NOS floating around?
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#362 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:13 pm

blank001 wrote:Has anyone seen any flexview NOS floating around?
Not unless you're willing to shell out $200 or thereabouts and still likely have to flash the EDID...
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#363 Post by musicengin » Mon May 04, 2015 7:29 pm

The backlight on my t61 has burnt out. It has a 15.4 WSXGA+ screen.

I'm guessing the screen itself is ok. When I boot up, I get a moment of normal light. Then something makes a fizzing noise and the light goes out, but I can still see faint words and images.

It seems to me (having poked around on the internet a while) that the sensible thing to do is buy an inverter and a backlight and replace them, for starters, before I sink any cash into a new screen. This will be my first major replacement project on a laptop.

Can someone here can point me to a video and/or set of instructions specific to the t61 15.4 combination? I've got several links for t6x, but all for 14 inch screens.

Also, have I missed any parts I should also buy?

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#364 Post by xsixt » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:10 am

misfit wrote: I decided to bite the bullet and buy a Boe-Hydis HV150UX1-100 from cgsplcd on ebay.

It seems *soooo* blue-white, my eyes almost feel like I'm in a nightclub with UV lighting! I'm fairly sure that it's not just a reaction to having used a yellowing display for so long as I also have a couple of 20" UXGA desktop monitor (Dell 2007FPb - the IPS version) and they're fine (great actually). My SXGA+ was quite yellow compared with the Dells but now the UXGA is *very* blue in comparison. I'd read the Boe-Hydis' were bluish but I wasn't prepared for this - considering I have two T43ps and a T42p with UXGA that are awesome - surely one of those is a BH?

Will the blue tone-down over time? I guess my eyes will get used to it to a degree but I don't think that's good for them is it? (Already I'm finding I need a second or two for my eyes to adjust when I look away from the screen.) Is there any way I can adjust it to compensate? I played with CCC but didn't find anything that made much difference. It's really nice having the extra screen real estate on the T60 - my every day machine. (I didn't want to be bothered trying 'the solder on a chip and flash it' method or I'd have used one of the four UXGA FlexViews I have on T42/43ps - they're all *far* nicer colour rendition than this screen though.)
Interesting. Does anyone know which out of the 15" SXGA+/UXGA Flexviews (LG-Philips, IDTech and BOE-Hydis) are the least blue-white? Or is this determined by age? I've got an IDTech (N150U3-L01) and it seems a bit blue-white compared to my NEC S-PVA monitor. I prefer yellowish screens because I do 95% of my work with text on a white background. Obviously you have a bit more calibration with the RGB settings on an ext. monitor by just turning down the blue. But on a notebook calibration suffers: I can only add a red hue but you can't decrease the blue when it's already zero.
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#365 Post by misfit » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:59 am

In my experience the LG-Philips is the 'yellowest' followed by IDtech then BOE-Hydis. The BOE-Hydis that I was talking about has lost some of its 'new blue' colour now, much later and still being used for >5 hours daily.

I assume that as the CCFLs age they get more yellow and that, at least with some panels they might have their CCFLs putting out a bluer colour in the early part of their life to compensate for the yellowing later.
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#366 Post by xsixt » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:37 am

misfit wrote:In my experience the LG-Philips is the 'yellowest' followed by IDtech then BOE-Hydis. The BOE-Hydis that I was talking about has lost some of its 'new blue' colour now, much later and still being used for >5 hours daily.

I assume that as the CCFLs age they get more yellow and that, at least with some panels they might have their CCFLs putting out a bluer colour in the early part of their life to compensate for the yellowing later.
Thanks, I acquired a LG-Philips flexview panel recently, and it's much more yellow than than the two IDTech flexviews I have, even though they are two years older. Sounds like a reasonable assumption - still these old IDTechs are still so stark white, I actually thought they were LED backlit!
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#367 Post by cyclodrome » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:02 am

Hello fellow ThinkPadders :)

I have a question regarding a particular LCD unit I found on ebay. The seller says that it is a "LG Philips screen with the part number LP150U03(A2)(P1)". I did some research and found that it is the UXGA screen, used in previous generations 4x Thinkpads.

My question is whether some of you knows if it is compatible with T60 hardware, does it have the discussed EEPROM and if yes - is EDID modification needed in order to install it on a T60.

This is the auction, the pricing looks like a good deal:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/15-UXGA-TFT-L ... 3641.l6368

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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#368 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:44 am

Seen this?
Please Note: An alternate compatible Part Number may be shipped

And read the Note part:
bumblesale wrote:If this auction is for a specific part number, please note we may ship a 100% compatible item, which will be as good as or better quality than the original part number. The manufacturer may also vary. Some part numbers are simply no longer available.
That screen is UXGA alright but it is only TN, NOT IPS.
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#369 Post by cyclodrome » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:22 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
That screen is UXGA alright but it is only TN, NOT IPS.
My advise: stay away!
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#370 Post by murak » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:54 pm

I wonder if someone can help me identify the display on a T60 8741 I found for sale?

The seller says it is a 14,1" HD led 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ ). From the pictures though it does not look like a wide-screen.

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Is it a flexview? If not, is it worth getting? (It's a present for someone that does nature photography on hobby-level.)

Also, the plan is to put a sata3 ssd in it, will it be fast enough for editing photos etc?

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 Lenovo T60 8741 (Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 250 GB HDD
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Manufacturer Intel 2.33 GHz
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Monitor Features anti-glare Display Resolution Abbreviation WSXGA+
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Re: LCDs on T60/T60p - types, availability and other discussions

#371 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:00 am

14,1" HD led 1680 x 1050 ( WSXGA+ )

But there never was a T60 with 14-inch widescreen panel, IIRC.
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#372 Post by murak » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:13 am

axur-delmeria wrote: But there never was a T60 with 14-inch widescreen panel, IIRC.
Thanks! I have sent a email to the seller to double check the resolution.
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#373 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:41 am

And the 14.1" HD led is another false indicator.
More likely it's a (decent enough looking) 14.1" XGA (1024x768) with CCFL, certainly not HD and not widescreen.
Ask for a picture of the first BIOS-page as well, since all 8741 T60 machines are widescreen 15.4"

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#374 Post by murak » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:10 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:And the 14.1" HD led is another false indicator.
More likely it's a (decent enough looking) 14.1" XGA (1024x768) with CCFL, certainly not HD and not widescreen.
Ask for a picture of the first BIOS-page as well, since all 8741 T60 machines are widescreen 15.4"
It was 1024 x 768 :/ Not a serious seller imo.

For future reference: is there an easy way for me to confirm it's a flexview? (if the seller is not that tech savvy or patient)

Edit: thank you for your answer.
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#375 Post by wsalomon » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:07 pm

As I've been on rebuilding spree, I've come across some Glossy WXGA+s for the T-61 widescreen 14.1'. They're Samsung, and overall the color isn't bad. This was unintentional, as a was looking for the usual matte finish. As long as one doesn't mind the reflections, the sharpness does appear greater than that in a Matte. (I originally thought that some of the "smudges" in dark areas of the Win 10 "sea cave" were actually real shadows).

My question is whether there is an equivalent for T-60 15" Frankenpad rebuilds? I did find a LG-Phillips LP-150-U03 in Matte, which looks great (for not being IPS, right?).

Is any one aware of some Glossy version, if one goes in that direction?

It looks like "glossies" started with widescreens (e.g. T-61 14.1" widescreen and the 15.4". (WUXGA).

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#376 Post by murak » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:28 am

How much is a 15" 1400x1050 screen for T60 worth (excluding shipping)? As I understand it all 15" 1400x1050 are IPS?
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#377 Post by ajkula66 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:53 am

murak wrote:How much is a 15" 1400x1050 screen for T60 worth (excluding shipping)? As I understand it all 15" 1400x1050 are IPS?
A NOS LG Philips panel (FRU 13N7078) can usually be found for less than $100, but that's in the U.S. No idea on pricing in EU.
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#378 Post by Peak2Peak » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:14 am

murak wrote:...As I understand it all 15" 1400x1050 are IPS?
There were also non-IPS 15" 1400x1050 (SXGA+) as used in the R60's & R61's (4:3 models) - Samsung (LTN150PF-L03) FRU: 13N7128 and LG-Phillips (LP150E07) FRU: 42T0350
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#379 Post by kfzhu1229 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:23 am

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/162096266433?redirect=mobile
Not sure if this is going to work on T60 even though the connector is the same.
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#380 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:37 am

kfzhu1229 wrote:http://www.ebay.ca/itm/162096266433?redirect=mobile
Not sure if this is going to work on T60 even though the connector is the same.
Most likely not, since it's probably missing the EDID chip required for it to be "seen" by T60's BIOS.
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#381 Post by mightyiam » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:27 am

I tried my best to read through the entire thread. A voyage through time.

So, this will likely fit a T60 after EDID modification, correct?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOEHYDIS-15-0-U ... 237901ff00

And, does that include soldering or only flashing?

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#382 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:15 am

Some of those -101 screens (such as this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280770292021) have an EDID chip already.
If missing, it requires both soldering and flashing.
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#383 Post by kfzhu1229 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:09 pm

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/400884295702?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT
Not sure if it really has the chip or not. Yes it is brand new and works fine on a T43 though. Advertised as T60 LCD replacement but unfortunately it is not IPS therefore it is cheap.
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#384 Post by mightyiam » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:29 pm

Thanks for the replies. How about this one?
https://world.taobao.com/item/16647218318.htm
A little over $30 before it gets out of china.

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#385 Post by kfzhu1229 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:21 pm

That's a QXGA display. Seems like a really decent price. Should work in T/R6x just fine but for T4x/R5x users you have to find the rare cable
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#386 Post by fourthree » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:28 am

How much better is the UX2 over the UX1? Is it just brightness, or color reproduction?
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#387 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:21 pm

HV150UX1 has CCFL backlight ex-factory
HV150UX2 has LED backlight ex-factory.
UX2 is miles ahead of UX1.
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#388 Post by fourthree » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:35 pm

What does 'miles ahead' actually mean? I mainly use high contrast colors, here's an example: https://a.uguu.se/5DMNGtxVNM08_xga.png

I'm at %40 according to an Fn+PgUp/PgDn. So I don't need it to be too bright.

The pics in theboardroom are only a brightness change, which wouldn't matter as much with a dark scheme. Granted my setup is likely not very usual, so I assume finding information would be a little bit more difficult, therefore I'm asking here.
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#389 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:58 pm

Did you follow the 3 links under Soup up your...?
Plenty of pictures there.

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#390 Post by fourthree » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:25 pm

Yep, I totally missed them. Definitely looks gorgeous - but as I'll have to wait until the thinkpad I've bought actually gets here.

Price is also a factor, however.. it makes me think of better get them now than later. What would you say? The screens from what I've seen can go for quite a bit of money. Should I get it even if the screen is good? EDIT: also, what's a reliable source? All's bought from the link George put in a recent thread about displays.
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