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T60p w/ IPS UXGA on Lenovo Outlet!
T60p w/ IPS UXGA on Lenovo Outlet!
Go to the Lenovo home page and click Lenovo Outlet under Products. Check it out! I'd order one in a second if I didn't just get an IBM certified used T60p a couple of weeks ago.
Then again, it does say this:
"Not available to customers in California or the New York City Government."
I live in California, so I guess I wouldn't be able to order one anyway. Anyone ever seen such a disclaimer before? Still, for those looking to get an IPS UXGA T60p, order yours now (as long as you don't live in CA or NY)!
Then again, it does say this:
"Not available to customers in California or the New York City Government."
I live in California, so I guess I wouldn't be able to order one anyway. Anyone ever seen such a disclaimer before? Still, for those looking to get an IPS UXGA T60p, order yours now (as long as you don't live in CA or NY)!
Re: T60p w/ IPS UXGA on Lenovo Outlet!
I assume it is because the LCD does not meet the RoHS requirements for hazardous materials, which California enforces:
What is RoHS?
The RoHS Directive stands for "the restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in electrical and electronic equipment". This Directive bans the placing on the EU market of new electrical and electronic equipment containing more than agreed levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) and polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE) flame retardants.
Manufacturers need to understand the requirements of the RoHS Directive to ensure that their products, and their components, comply.
HTH,
Steve
What is RoHS?
The RoHS Directive stands for "the restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in electrical and electronic equipment". This Directive bans the placing on the EU market of new electrical and electronic equipment containing more than agreed levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) and polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE) flame retardants.
Manufacturers need to understand the requirements of the RoHS Directive to ensure that their products, and their components, comply.
HTH,
Steve
eliu01 wrote:"Not available to customers in California or the New York City Government."
I live in California, so I guess I wouldn't be able to order one anyway. Anyone ever seen such a disclaimer before? Still, for those looking to get an IPS UXGA T60p, order yours now (as long as you don't live in CA or NY)!
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I's not the LCD.
IBM/Lenovo sells different models over here because they must comply to RoHS standards in Europe. They have the exact same screens, but the motherboard part no.s are different.
If you ask me... it's a load of BS, and a big money machine for the corporations. Every electronics component which is RoHS compliant costs more, but they still produce non-RoHS compliant devices, so what is the point of having two production lines running?
But oh well... If you want to buy a T60P over here, it costs $5800 with taxes . Guess how well it sells?
IBM/Lenovo sells different models over here because they must comply to RoHS standards in Europe. They have the exact same screens, but the motherboard part no.s are different.
If you ask me... it's a load of BS, and a big money machine for the corporations. Every electronics component which is RoHS compliant costs more, but they still produce non-RoHS compliant devices, so what is the point of having two production lines running?
But oh well... If you want to buy a T60P over here, it costs $5800 with taxes . Guess how well it sells?
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To completely know about RoHS, refer this.California has passed SB 20: Electronic Waste Recycling Act of 2003, or EWRA. This law prohibits the sale of electronic devices after January 1, 2007, that are prohibited from being sold under the EU RoHS directive, but across a much narrower scope that includes LCDs, CRTs, and the like and only covers the four heavy metals restricted by RoHS. EWRA also has a restricted material disclosure requirement.
Other US states and cities are debating whether to adopt similar laws, and there are several states that have mercury and PBDE bans already. Federal RoHS-like regulation in the US is unlikely in the near to medium term.
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Just a guess, but it seems that the T60p with UXGA being sold are an older model CoreDuo from last year (potentially overstock). Maybe something has changed since they were produced and now that they can't be sold there. I would be surprised if they really had two different lines, one for CA, and one for everyone else.Troels wrote: If you ask me... it's a load of BS, and a big money machine for the corporations. Every electronics component which is RoHS compliant costs more, but they still produce non-RoHS compliant devices, so what is the point of having two production lines running?
What's the difference between these screens? One says sRGB, does that mean its color gamut is the same as sRGB and therefor presumably better?
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The answer can be found in the thread on the main page of the T60P forum...okashira wrote:That's what I'd like to know.WPWoodJr wrote:What's the difference between these screens? One says sRGB, does that mean its color gamut is the same as sRGB and therefor presumably better?
flexview and eyestrain
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... sc&start=0
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I believe that everyone who is buying this one knows that they may choose to upgrade the processor later. At a minimum I will be installing a T7400. I am hoping a T7600 will fall into my price range.XiP wrote:...I noticed it had a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo.
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The answer is not there. There is one person who gave their opinion on the difference in another thread, but it's just speculation.Bing0 wrote:The answer can be found in the thread on the main page of the T60P forum...okashira wrote: That's what I'd like to know.
flexview and eyestrain
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... sc&start=0
my inclination is to believe that they are the same panel. perhaps the srgb one was software calibrated or somthing. But, to produce a better color gamut, they panel would have to have a different backlight, and there are not multiple listings for the panel on BOE's website.
anyhow, I would really appreciate it if somone posts what panel they get when they recive their system from the Outlet.
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I would really like to know the answer as well. I have combed this forum as well as the internet and so far have been unable to find out what the difference is between these two Boe Hydis UXGA panels except one has sRBG next to it on the Lenovo site.
Anyone know what the difference is?
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Anyone know what the difference is?
Regards,
Scott Halliday
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Thank you macuser for posting the link. I take it from this that the difference between the two panels is the 13N7076 panel is RGB and the 13N7194 is sRGB.
Assuming the 13N7076 is RGB then it seems both panels will work fine for general use with the 13N7076 panel being better suited for desktop publishing and print work whereas the sRGB 13N7194 panel being better suited for web design and online artwork/photography. Would that be correct or have I misread this article or missed something else?
Assuming the 13N7076 is RGB then it seems both panels will work fine for general use with the 13N7076 panel being better suited for desktop publishing and print work whereas the sRGB 13N7194 panel being better suited for web design and online artwork/photography. Would that be correct or have I misread this article or missed something else?
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But the Z61p is much heavier than the T60p, 7.3 lbs versus 6.3 lbs. I have no idea why the Z61p needs to be so heavy. My Dell Inspiron 6000 is also 15.4" and WUXGA, but it's only 6.60 lbs. And Dell usually makes heavier laptops than IBM/Lenovo.XiP wrote:I was about to pull the trigger on the lenovo outlet T60p ... however I noticed it had a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo. I just purchased a z61p instead.
Z61p was very cheap during a sale last year and I was tempted to buy one, but because of the weight I decided not to.
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There is no such color space "RGB". sRGB is the standard Windows color space, also used by most cameras, scanners, monitors, etc. Most laptop LCDs don't cover the full sRGB set of colors. The question is, does the LCD panel labeled sRGB have a full sRGB color gamut (range of color capability), while presumably the other panel does not?shalliday wrote:I take it from this that the difference between the two panels is 13N7076 panel is RGB and the 13N7194 is sRGB.
Adobe RGB is a larger color space that high-end monitors such as the Dell 27" can achieve. Its not relevant to this discussion, you're lucky if a laptop monitor can do sRGB, the LG Philips SXGA+ Flexview pretty much can which is one of the reasons people rave about it.
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I was going to say the same thing. indeed the link posted by macuser is irrelevent to this discussion. I still say the best evidence points to there being no real physical difference between the sRGB panel and the 'normal' one.WPWoodJr wrote:There is no such color space "RGB". sRGB is the standard Windows color space, also used by most cameras, scanners, monitors, etc. Most laptop LCDs don't cover the full sRGB set of colors. The question is, does the LCD panel labeled sRGB have a full sRGB color gamut (range of color capability), while presumably the other panel does not?shalliday wrote:I take it from this that the difference between the two panels is 13N7076 panel is RGB and the 13N7194 is sRGB.
Adobe RGB is a larger color space that high-end monitors such as the Dell 27" can achieve. Its not relevant to this discussion, you're lucky if a laptop monitor can do sRGB, the LG Philips SXGA+ Flexview pretty much can which is one of the reasons people rave about it.
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I have two on the way as well. One is listed to ship tomorrow (April 17) and the other is listed for the day after that (April 18 ). Luckily, I already have a T60, otherwise I'd be climbing the walls waiting for these two to arrive!!!okashira wrote:Just ordered two.
anyone's ship yet?
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Are you selling one or both of them?okashira wrote:Just ordered two.
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