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T61 + R61 are out!

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:00 pm
by nxman
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3657


img]http://www2.0zz0.com/2007/04/24/18/26116451.jpg[/img]

Specs:

* Lenovo ThinkPad T61
* 14.1-inch WXGA TFT (1280 x 800)
* Bluetooth wireless technology
* Integrated Fingerprint Reader
* Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7300
* Mobile Intel PM965 Express Chipset
* NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
* 120 GB / 5400 rpm
* DVD Recordable
* 1 GB Memory
* Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
* 6-cell battery
* IEEE 1394
* Express Card
* Microsoft Windows Vista Business

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:52 pm
by darrenf
First impressions:

I like the new microphone location, but I have to seriously question the relocation of the headphone jack. Looks like something they had to do to find room for everything (like going to one USB on the right side) but it seems like a poor decision.

Speakers have been moved to the right and left of keyboard, a-la-Z-series. Most will like that.

A camera has been integrated into the lid -- handy.

Keyboard looks interchangeable with the T60 & Z-series.

Wireless antennas have been moved from the sides of the lid to the face at the top and left of the display.

Despite the screen appearing as thin as on the 14" T60 (or thinner), the thickness is listed as 1.2" - 1.37" which is .2" thicker than the current 14" T60.

I would love to read more details on the makeup of the lid.

All in all pretty impressive!

-darren

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:14 pm
by nxman
I saw the webcam which i really like but its not mentioned at all.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:52 pm
by ryengineer
Pretty impressive.

They removed the IBM logo as rumoured.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:00 pm
by perry_78
Actually, I really dislike the new T61. It looks like a quasi multimedia machine, not a working machine. The frame along the screen is way too big too :(

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:12 pm
by darrenf
perry_78 wrote:The frame along the screen is way too big too :(
I'm not sure that it could be shorter with the current layout. Keep in mind that the Optical and HDD are side-by-side. They also kept the full-size T/Z-series keyboard without compromising the well between the touchpad and trackpoint buttons like they did on the 14"-w Z-series (from what I can tell in photos).

-darren

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:13 pm
by DesolataX
What did they do to the T61!!!
Microphone and headphone ports at the bottom!!! That is a horrible design flaw, especially for those who watch movies with headphones in recliners, that is horrid!
Moving the speakers to the sides is going to make it annoying for the 14" models, but for the 15" and 15.4" WS, that will be great. Too bad they removed the IBM logo from it, but adding the lenovo label to where the lights makes it look strange.
Adding the camera is a nice feature, use it quite a bit with my Macbook. Glad they kept the thinklight, although a backlit keyboard would be interesting too. Perhaps they should add a light to the camera, too.
The new design makes it look more chubby, not as sleak as past thinkpads.
I just hope that this isn't final, and if it is, I am not getting one with those headphone/microphone are one the front, that would be way, way too annoying.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:17 pm
by GomJabbar
You can get any model you like as long as it's a: 14.1-inch WXGA TFT (1280 x 800). :roll:

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:21 pm
by ryengineer
DesolataX wrote:Too bad they removed the IBM logo from it, but adding the lenovo label to where the lights makes it look strange.
FYI, they've been doing that with previous versions of thinkpads too.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:21 pm
by majiklantrn
Hmm.. I don't like the look of the T61. Is this design final? Maybe I should order a T60 now. :(

Also, I hope that camera is optional cause the government won't like that. Thats how Apple screwed itself with the Macbooks.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:25 pm
by majiklantrn
ryengineer wrote:
DesolataX wrote:Too bad they removed the IBM logo from it, but adding the lenovo label to where the lights makes it look strange.
FYI, they've been doing that with previous versions of thinkpads too.
The T60 has the IBM logo on the lower right, Lenovo where the lights are.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:26 pm
by WPWoodJr
GomJabbar wrote:You can get any model you like as long as it's a: 14.1-inch WXGA TFT (1280 x 800). :roll:
They also have a 14.1" WXGA+ 1440x900

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:29 pm
by DesolataX
majiklantrn wrote:Hmm.. I don't like the look of the T61. Is this design final? Maybe I should order a T60 now. :(

Also, I hope that camera is optional cause the government won't like that. Thats how Apple screwed itself with the Macbooks.
If there is a large enough order, they would probably consider removing the camera, or they may even make it an option

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:51 pm
by ryengineer
majiklantrn wrote: The T60 has the IBM logo on the lower right, Lenovo where the lights are.
I was referring to second, Lenovo part of his post. :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:58 pm
by gator
I don't like it, some how does'nt have that sleek look of the current (and past) T series.

And roll cage on LCD? Whaaaa?

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:01 pm
by GomJabbar
WPWoodJr wrote:They also have a 14.1" WXGA+ 1440x900
Sho-enuff :oops:

I just saw XGA, I missed the little + sign...

Still, where are the 4:3 aspect ratio models :?:

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:07 pm
by pianowizard
And I've just been told by gator that the T61p will have WSXGA+!

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:31 pm
by sloomy
it can not be true, that they want just offer wide screen models. I hope not. and i am also missing the IBM logo. Just Thinkpad looks some poor.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:34 pm
by XiP
Sure hope that's not the final design.. it looks like it's missing something without the IBM logo.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:37 pm
by pianowizard
sloomy wrote:it can not be true, that they want just offer wide screen models. I hope not.
I think we need to have more faith in this article! Remember, Lenovo usually doesn't release all models at once. For example, the SXGA+ option for the X60 tablet came out several months later than the XGA models.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:17 pm
by GomJabbar
pianowizard wrote:I think we need to have more faith in this article!
Whew :!: I did notice that the link at the beginning of this thread did not include any US models...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:31 pm
by majiklantrn
Well, I work for IBM and I know that 2009 is when our contract with Lenovo ends so I can see Lenovo phasing out the IBM on their laptop. Now I'm curious what IBM will use for a laptop, or will we still use Lenovo.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:04 pm
by pianowizard
majiklantrn wrote:Now I'm curious what IBM will use for a laptop, or will we still use Lenovo.
That's an interesting question and I hope you can tell us the answer in 2009.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:30 pm
by runixd
Looks Great. Full hard disk encryption is part of trusted computing initiative and I think initially is supported by Hitachi. All the nice features stay despite the multimedia nonsense, so moving towards multimedia doesn't prevent the advancements in the "right" direction. I'm freeing up some space on the desk for t61p.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:18 pm
by Temetka
Am I missing something? My T41P has a resolution of 1400 x 1050 which would seem to be higher than 1440x900.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:34 pm
by pianowizard
Temetka wrote:Am I missing something? My T41P has a resolution of 1400 x 1050 which would seem to be higher than 1440x900.
Indeed. That's why people who need high-res screens should wait for the 14.1" WSXGA+ T61p.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:53 pm
by rnsolo
looks like lenovo has really forgotten all about the s-video out. :?

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:05 pm
by Kamika007z
what an ugly machine.

14.1 sxga non-wide and the IBM logo would make me want this... especially when they decided to go with an NVIDIA chipset...

But I won't get this... it's rediculously ugly. I hate wide sides. (where the speakers are)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:12 pm
by darrenf
FWIW, full drive encryption is now available on Seagate laptop drives (.FDE2 I think they call it), but right now I think they are only available to the OEM channel. I saw an announcement of their release about a month ago but have yet to see one available at sites like newegg.com.

-darren

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:16 pm
by baovu
Kamika007z wrote:what an ugly machine.

But I won't get this... it's rediculously ugly. I hate wide sides. (where the speakers are)
Second that! It does look kind of chubby IMHO.