Choose between these 2 T60p

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cpfuller · #1 Post by **cpfuller** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:03 pm

Below are some specs. on 2 T60p machines please help me choose.

Core 2 Duo 2GHz T7200
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
8X Dual Layer DVD
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SXVGA+ 1400 x 1050 FlexView
9 Cell Battery

Core Duo 2GHz T2500
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
4X DVD CDRW
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SUVGA+ 1600 x 1200 FlexView
Verizon Wireless Card
9 Cell Battery

The prices are within $50.00

Thanks
Charles

darrenf · #2 Post by **darrenf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:57 pm

I think you'll find that despite the published specs the DVD drive that ships with that second system is a dual-layer that runs at 8x on +/-R media. That's how mine was equipped (delivered this week).

-darren

cpfuller · #3 Post by **cpfuller** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:03 pm

My debate is 1600 x 1200 FlexView over Core 2 Duo. What is your opinion.

Charles

darrenf · #4 Post by **darrenf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:09 pm

The FlexView SXGA+ that I have used (ID Tech) was *gorgeous*. That said, once I finally decided to make the leap to the rather bulky 15" chassis, I wasn't about to stay at the same resolution that I had on my 14" model so I jumped when the 15" UXGA became available again and have absolutely loved it.

The only hesitation I would have is if you game or work with video the ghosting is going to be distracting at times (full screen anyway). I don't know if the SXGA+ is better in this regard or not. I would guess that a search of the forum will dig up a conversation or two on ghosting if that concerns you.

You might want to look at this thread if you haven't already.

-darren

darrenf · #5 Post by **darrenf** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:13 pm

I think I read that the Core 2 had about a 10% performance improvement over a Core of the same clock, but it would be good if someone else could confirm that.

BTW: If you want a 4x3 aspect ratio UXGA (ever) this is probably your last chance. That factored heavily in my thinking.

-darren

perry_78 · #6 Post by **perry_78** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:18 am

I'd go for the latter, simply because of the screen

dr_st · #7 Post by **dr_st** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:53 am

Both are Flexview, and for most things, UXGA is not a huge difference from SXGA+. I'd go for the Core 2 Duo - it has 4MB cache and is a 64-bit CPU, making it more future-proof.

perry_78 · #8 Post by **perry_78** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:21 am

Yes, but I for one would prefer the UXGA resolution, I have sxga+ on the 14", and wouldn't like to have the same resolution on a 15".

axiom · #9 Post by **axiom** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:28 am

Go for the higher resolution.
A flexview with that resolution will be extremely hard to come by, but for CPUs, if you wish you can get a c2d 2.33ghz say 2 years from now easily

XiP · #10 Post by **XiP** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:36 pm

Go with:
Core Duo 2GHz T2500
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
4X DVD CDRW
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SUVGA+ 1600 x 1200 FlexView
Verizon Wireless Card
9 Cell Battery

and upgrade the CPU to T7200

zmyrgel · #11 Post by **zmyrgel** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:59 pm

That would have been my suggestion too.

dsalyers · #12 Post by **dsalyers** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:33 am

cpfuller wrote:My debate is 1600 x 1200 FlexView over Core 2 Duo. What is your opinion.

Charles

There are already alot of opinions about what you should do -- and here is another suggestion. If you have never seen a UXGA screen, you really should, as some people hate the small text size. Both panels are IPS, so they should be good screens.

Now, if you love the UXGA resolution, the only way to get that is to get a system with a CoreDuo processor. The CoreDuo can be upgraded to a Core2Duo (socket M -- not the new Socket P which is coming out with Santa Rosa) pretty easily. Although this will add about $300 to the cost of the system

There have been a couple of studies showing that the Core2Duo is about 10% better performance wise clock-for-clock:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=2808

However, is 10% really worth $300? To me not really. Plus unless you have a need for a 64bit processor right now, the Core2Duo doesn't add a whole lot of benefit.

Finally, I will end with another opton. Unless you just love the IPS displays. You may want to consider a Z61p (assuming you can find one for a good price).

My Z61p has:
2.0Ghz Core2Duo
1.5GB ram
256MB V5200 ATI FireGL
15.4in WUXGA - NOT IPS display.
100 GB HD
DVD-DL burner

cpfuller · #13 Post by **cpfuller** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:28 pm

The decision was made for me. The core duo was out of stock when I ordered it so I got the xsvga+ core 2 duo.

Thanks for everyones input.

Charles

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