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Choose between these 2 T60p

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:03 pm
by cpfuller
Below are some specs. on 2 T60p machines please help me choose.

Core 2 Duo 2GHz T7200
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
8X Dual Layer DVD
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SXVGA+ 1400 x 1050 FlexView
9 Cell Battery

Core Duo 2GHz T2500
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
4X DVD CDRW
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SUVGA+ 1600 x 1200 FlexView
Verizon Wireless Card
9 Cell Battery

The prices are within $50.00

Thanks
Charles

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:57 pm
by darrenf
I think you'll find that despite the published specs the DVD drive that ships with that second system is a dual-layer that runs at 8x on +/-R media. That's how mine was equipped (delivered this week).

-darren

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:03 pm
by cpfuller
My debate is 1600 x 1200 FlexView over Core 2 Duo. What is your opinion.

Charles

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:09 pm
by darrenf
The FlexView SXGA+ that I have used (ID Tech) was *gorgeous*. That said, once I finally decided to make the leap to the rather bulky 15" chassis, I wasn't about to stay at the same resolution that I had on my 14" model so I jumped when the 15" UXGA became available again and have absolutely loved it.

The only hesitation I would have is if you game or work with video the ghosting is going to be distracting at times (full screen anyway). I don't know if the SXGA+ is better in this regard or not. I would guess that a search of the forum will dig up a conversation or two on ghosting if that concerns you.

You might want to look at this thread if you haven't already.

-darren

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:13 pm
by darrenf
I think I read that the Core 2 had about a 10% performance improvement over a Core of the same clock, but it would be good if someone else could confirm that.

BTW: If you want a 4x3 aspect ratio UXGA (ever) this is probably your last chance. That factored heavily in my thinking.

-darren

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:18 am
by perry_78
I'd go for the latter, simply because of the screen :)

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:53 am
by dr_st
Both are Flexview, and for most things, UXGA is not a huge difference from SXGA+. I'd go for the Core 2 Duo - it has 4MB cache and is a 64-bit CPU, making it more future-proof.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:21 am
by perry_78
Yes, but I for one would prefer the UXGA resolution, I have sxga+ on the 14", and wouldn't like to have the same resolution on a 15".

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:28 am
by axiom
Go for the higher resolution.
A flexview with that resolution will be extremely hard to come by, but for CPUs, if you wish you can get a c2d 2.33ghz say 2 years from now easily

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:36 pm
by XiP
Go with:
Core Duo 2GHz T2500
2Gig Ram
ATI Mobile FireGL 256mb
100 Gig 7200 rpm
Bluetooth + Fingerprint Reader
4X DVD CDRW
Thinkpad WiFI 802.11 a/b/g
WinXP Pro
15" SUVGA+ 1600 x 1200 FlexView
Verizon Wireless Card
9 Cell Battery

and upgrade the CPU to T7200

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:59 pm
by zmyrgel
That would have been my suggestion too.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:33 am
by dsalyers
cpfuller wrote:My debate is 1600 x 1200 FlexView over Core 2 Duo. What is your opinion.

Charles
There are already alot of opinions about what you should do -- and here is another suggestion. If you have never seen a UXGA screen, you really should, as some people hate the small text size. Both panels are IPS, so they should be good screens.

Now, if you love the UXGA resolution, the only way to get that is to get a system with a CoreDuo processor. The CoreDuo can be upgraded to a Core2Duo (socket M -- not the new Socket P which is coming out with Santa Rosa) pretty easily. Although this will add about $300 to the cost of the system

There have been a couple of studies showing that the Core2Duo is about 10% better performance wise clock-for-clock:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=2808

However, is 10% really worth $300? To me not really. Plus unless you have a need for a 64bit processor right now, the Core2Duo doesn't add a whole lot of benefit.

Finally, I will end with another opton. Unless you just love the IPS displays. You may want to consider a Z61p (assuming you can find one for a good price).

My Z61p has:
2.0Ghz Core2Duo
1.5GB ram
256MB V5200 ATI FireGL
15.4in WUXGA - NOT IPS display.
100 GB HD
DVD-DL burner

Core 2 Duo

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:28 pm
by cpfuller
The decision was made for me. The core duo was out of stock when I ordered it so I got the xsvga+ core 2 duo.

Thanks for everyones input.

Charles