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T61 15 inch

#1 Post by neednotebook » Fri May 11, 2007 1:33 am

Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch?? And also is the price going to be in similar range to 14 inch or will it be costly??

If there is a 15 inch model, do they have any release date yet??

thank you very much

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#2 Post by BillMorrow » Fri May 11, 2007 3:39 am

i don't see any 15 inch ZT61.. yet..
they will probably add more model variations, later..
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#3 Post by neednotebook » Fri May 11, 2007 12:00 pm

tx for the info

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Re: T61 15 inch

#4 Post by pianowizard » Sun May 13, 2007 8:58 am

neednotebook wrote:Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch??
Do you mean 15.4" (widescreen) or 15.0" (4:3 screen)? There will never be a 15.0" T61.
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Re: T61 15 inch

#5 Post by brentpresley » Sun May 13, 2007 7:43 pm

pianowizard wrote:
neednotebook wrote:Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch??
Do you mean 15.4" (widescreen) or 15.0" (4:3 screen)? There will never be a 15.0" T61.
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Re: T61 15 inch

#6 Post by gator » Sun May 13, 2007 9:04 pm

brentpresley wrote: Say it ain't so! I'm going to cry. :cry:
Sadly, that is the truth ... I did read somewhere that "corporate" (read, "espensive") buyers MIGHT get a 15.0 4:3 option, but only for T61 (and no more).
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#7 Post by SkiBunny » Mon May 14, 2007 12:15 am

Never say never.

There is still a demand/need/niche for FlexView, which is in the 15" 4:3 form factor.

This is the top-of-the-line thinkpad with high profit margins, so hard to imagine the high-end, high-margin product disappearing. It may have scarcity however, so did the T60 15" 4:3 FlexViews sometimes.
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#8 Post by neednotebook » Tue May 15, 2007 12:20 am

I was looking for 15.4

anyway lenovo just updated they lenovo Nseries N200 with 15.4 models in Canada website, hopefully the 15/15.4 Thinkpad versions will come soon

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#9 Post by pianowizard » Tue May 15, 2007 7:34 am

SkiBunny wrote:Never say never.
If you don't like the word "never", let me say the same thing in another way: According to what people have reported on this forum, Lenovo is not planning to release a 15.0" T61.
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#10 Post by Bigben » Tue May 15, 2007 8:17 am

pianowizard wrote:
SkiBunny wrote:Never say never.
If you don't like the word "never", let me say the same thing in another way: According to what people have reported on this forum, Lenovo is not planning to release a 15.0" T61.
http://www.clarkson.edu/oit/computersto ... am2007.pdf

If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option. Here's hoping!

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#11 Post by pianowizard » Tue May 15, 2007 9:00 am

Bigben wrote:If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option.
15.0" is 4:3, 15.4" is widescreen. There will not be a 15.0" T61.
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#12 Post by kouloubj » Tue May 15, 2007 9:46 am

neednotebook wrote:I was looking for 15.4

anyway lenovo just updated they lenovo Nseries N200 with 15.4 models in Canada website, hopefully the 15/15.4 Thinkpad versions will come soon

I spoke with a sales rep today, and they said the 15.4 model will be released on 6/4/2007

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#13 Post by Bigben » Tue May 15, 2007 10:09 am

pianowizard wrote:
Bigben wrote:If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option.
15.0" is 4:3, 15.4" is widescreen. There will not be a 15.0" T61.
Ah, I need to learn to read the whole thread :P It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.

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#14 Post by pianowizard » Tue May 15, 2007 10:59 am

Bigben wrote:The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens
Actually, 16:10. 16:9 is for TVs.
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#15 Post by barrywohl » Tue May 15, 2007 9:57 pm

neednotebook wrote:I spoke with a sales rep today, and they said the 15.4 model will be released on 6/4/2007
Any word on a WUXGA 1920 x 1200 15.4" release date?
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#16 Post by hoplite » Tue May 15, 2007 10:53 pm

Bigben wrote: It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.
I keep seeing this sentiment. That a 4:3 is more practical for business applications?

What is the thinking behind this? I work on 4:3 and 16:10 throughout the day and night and I really can't see any advantage/disadvantage to one or the other for "business applications."
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#17 Post by Bigben » Wed May 16, 2007 2:30 pm

hoplite wrote:
Bigben wrote: It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.
I keep seeing this sentiment. That a 4:3 is more practical for business applications?

What is the thinking behind this? I work on 4:3 and 16:10 throughout the day and night and I really can't see any advantage/disadvantage to one or the other for "business applications."
It depends on your job, but here are some examples of commonly used applications:

MS Word - Widescreen is a disadvantage here, since your documents are usually 8.5x11" and you lose vertical spacing to a 16:10 screen compared to a 4:3 screen.

Web design/browsing - Unless you can fit 2 pages on one screen, widescreen is again at a disadvantage since most websites don't take advantage of a wider screen.

Excel - Depends on the user, but similar to the MS Word issue above for me.

Powerpoint - Widescreen would be better here since your documents are wider than if you were using Word/Excel.

I would primarily use my laptop for web browsing, Excel, and Word, with some Powerpoint thrown in. 3 out of the 4 would be better served by a 4:3 display, and those 3 are the apps I use the most. Of course each user is different.

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#18 Post by FRiC » Wed May 16, 2007 6:37 pm

Word and Excel might be more usable if you have more vertical space, but if you bring up tools like the clipboard or the mail merge tool, they take up space on the right hand side by default, so widescreen does help here.

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#19 Post by seeplus » Thu May 17, 2007 12:44 am

Widescreen is great for graphics/design apps with tool panels on the sides.. but I still went with a 4:3 for the IPS.
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#20 Post by barrywohl » Thu May 17, 2007 6:30 am

I was disappointed that my Z61p with a 15.4 inch WUXGA had about a half inch less vertical height in the screen than my R50p with a 15 inch UXGA screen.

However, overall, I preferred the 15.4 inch WUXGA to the UXGA for getting more applications up at a time, more real estate.

The UXGA on the R50p is IPS and the WUXGA on current ThinkPads are not IPS.

Still, I'm looking forward to purchasing a T61 with WUXGA wide screen 15.4 inch screen this summer, hopefully by July 1.
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#21 Post by pianowizard » Thu May 17, 2007 9:14 am

barrywohl wrote:I was disappointed that my Z61p with a 15.4 inch WUXGA had about a half inch less vertical height in the screen than my R50p with a 15 inch UXGA screen.
But of course, both have the same rows of pixels (1200) and once you get used to the WUXGA's smaller texts/images, the Z61p has just as much vertical real estate as the R50p.
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#22 Post by hart22 » Thu May 17, 2007 9:30 am

I was reading the new T61 review at NotebookReview.com just up today: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.a ... inkPad+T61

and they mention this:

"Important to note is that this review covers the 14.1" widescreen version of the T61 series. Lenovo will be offering a 15" version soon, as they do for their T60, and eventually standard screen implementations of each size."

So will there be a 15" 4:3 version of the T61 eventually? I ask because the flexview option is back now on the 15" T60s, so here's hoping...

Edit: missed this in the review: "Some will be disappointed to know that the popular FlexView option in the T60 series will no longer be offered for the T61. This is a shame. The vertical viewing angles on the T61 are, like most laptops, poor."

oh well...

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