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T61 15 inch

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:33 am
by neednotebook
Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch?? And also is the price going to be in similar range to 14 inch or will it be costly??

If there is a 15 inch model, do they have any release date yet??

thank you very much

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:39 am
by BillMorrow
i don't see any 15 inch ZT61.. yet..
they will probably add more model variations, later..

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:00 pm
by neednotebook
tx for the info

Re: T61 15 inch

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:58 am
by pianowizard
neednotebook wrote:Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch??
Do you mean 15.4" (widescreen) or 15.0" (4:3 screen)? There will never be a 15.0" T61.

Re: T61 15 inch

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:43 pm
by brentpresley
pianowizard wrote:
neednotebook wrote:Hi,
Can someone tell me if there will be any 15 inch models for T61 or is it just 14 inch??
Do you mean 15.4" (widescreen) or 15.0" (4:3 screen)? There will never be a 15.0" T61.
Say it ain't so! I'm going to cry. :cry:

Re: T61 15 inch

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:04 pm
by gator
brentpresley wrote: Say it ain't so! I'm going to cry. :cry:
Sadly, that is the truth ... I did read somewhere that "corporate" (read, "espensive") buyers MIGHT get a 15.0 4:3 option, but only for T61 (and no more).

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:15 am
by SkiBunny
Never say never.

There is still a demand/need/niche for FlexView, which is in the 15" 4:3 form factor.

This is the top-of-the-line thinkpad with high profit margins, so hard to imagine the high-end, high-margin product disappearing. It may have scarcity however, so did the T60 15" 4:3 FlexViews sometimes.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:20 am
by neednotebook
I was looking for 15.4

anyway lenovo just updated they lenovo Nseries N200 with 15.4 models in Canada website, hopefully the 15/15.4 Thinkpad versions will come soon

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:34 am
by pianowizard
SkiBunny wrote:Never say never.
If you don't like the word "never", let me say the same thing in another way: According to what people have reported on this forum, Lenovo is not planning to release a 15.0" T61.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:17 am
by Bigben
pianowizard wrote:
SkiBunny wrote:Never say never.
If you don't like the word "never", let me say the same thing in another way: According to what people have reported on this forum, Lenovo is not planning to release a 15.0" T61.
http://www.clarkson.edu/oit/computersto ... am2007.pdf

If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option. Here's hoping!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:00 am
by pianowizard
Bigben wrote:If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option.
15.0" is 4:3, 15.4" is widescreen. There will not be a 15.0" T61.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:46 am
by kouloubj
neednotebook wrote:I was looking for 15.4

anyway lenovo just updated they lenovo Nseries N200 with 15.4 models in Canada website, hopefully the 15/15.4 Thinkpad versions will come soon

I spoke with a sales rep today, and they said the 15.4 model will be released on 6/4/2007

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:09 am
by Bigben
pianowizard wrote:
Bigben wrote:If that link is legit, then there will be a 15.4" T61p, as well as a new video card option.
15.0" is 4:3, 15.4" is widescreen. There will not be a 15.0" T61.
Ah, I need to learn to read the whole thread :P It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:59 am
by pianowizard
Bigben wrote:The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens
Actually, 16:10. 16:9 is for TVs.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:57 pm
by barrywohl
neednotebook wrote:I spoke with a sales rep today, and they said the 15.4 model will be released on 6/4/2007
Any word on a WUXGA 1920 x 1200 15.4" release date?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:53 pm
by hoplite
Bigben wrote: It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.
I keep seeing this sentiment. That a 4:3 is more practical for business applications?

What is the thinking behind this? I work on 4:3 and 16:10 throughout the day and night and I really can't see any advantage/disadvantage to one or the other for "business applications."

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:30 pm
by Bigben
hoplite wrote:
Bigben wrote: It's too bad there won't be a 4:3 option, as I find that's much more practical for business applications. The general trend for displays is to move to 16:9 screens however which is why it's probably getting more expensive to get 4:3 displays.
I keep seeing this sentiment. That a 4:3 is more practical for business applications?

What is the thinking behind this? I work on 4:3 and 16:10 throughout the day and night and I really can't see any advantage/disadvantage to one or the other for "business applications."
It depends on your job, but here are some examples of commonly used applications:

MS Word - Widescreen is a disadvantage here, since your documents are usually 8.5x11" and you lose vertical spacing to a 16:10 screen compared to a 4:3 screen.

Web design/browsing - Unless you can fit 2 pages on one screen, widescreen is again at a disadvantage since most websites don't take advantage of a wider screen.

Excel - Depends on the user, but similar to the MS Word issue above for me.

Powerpoint - Widescreen would be better here since your documents are wider than if you were using Word/Excel.

I would primarily use my laptop for web browsing, Excel, and Word, with some Powerpoint thrown in. 3 out of the 4 would be better served by a 4:3 display, and those 3 are the apps I use the most. Of course each user is different.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:37 pm
by FRiC
Word and Excel might be more usable if you have more vertical space, but if you bring up tools like the clipboard or the mail merge tool, they take up space on the right hand side by default, so widescreen does help here.

Personally, I'm still going for 4:3 screen.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:44 am
by seeplus
Widescreen is great for graphics/design apps with tool panels on the sides.. but I still went with a 4:3 for the IPS.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:30 am
by barrywohl
I was disappointed that my Z61p with a 15.4 inch WUXGA had about a half inch less vertical height in the screen than my R50p with a 15 inch UXGA screen.

However, overall, I preferred the 15.4 inch WUXGA to the UXGA for getting more applications up at a time, more real estate.

The UXGA on the R50p is IPS and the WUXGA on current ThinkPads are not IPS.

Still, I'm looking forward to purchasing a T61 with WUXGA wide screen 15.4 inch screen this summer, hopefully by July 1.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:14 am
by pianowizard
barrywohl wrote:I was disappointed that my Z61p with a 15.4 inch WUXGA had about a half inch less vertical height in the screen than my R50p with a 15 inch UXGA screen.
But of course, both have the same rows of pixels (1200) and once you get used to the WUXGA's smaller texts/images, the Z61p has just as much vertical real estate as the R50p.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:30 am
by hart22
I was reading the new T61 review at NotebookReview.com just up today: http://www.notebookreview.com/default.a ... inkPad+T61

and they mention this:

"Important to note is that this review covers the 14.1" widescreen version of the T61 series. Lenovo will be offering a 15" version soon, as they do for their T60, and eventually standard screen implementations of each size."

So will there be a 15" 4:3 version of the T61 eventually? I ask because the flexview option is back now on the 15" T60s, so here's hoping...

Edit: missed this in the review: "Some will be disappointed to know that the popular FlexView option in the T60 series will no longer be offered for the T61. This is a shame. The vertical viewing angles on the T61 are, like most laptops, poor."

oh well...