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Hig res T61 pics from notebook review forums (PICS)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:26 pm
by gator
These pics are from notebookreview.com forums (need to be member there to view the pics). Since no one seems to have posted them here, I thought I'll post.The screen seems to be skightly off-center, but the T61 does look sturdy and very thinkpad-ish :D

http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/1.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/3.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/4.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/5.jpg

T43 Vs T61 comparison pics:

http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/T61-T43.jpg <-- T61 is thicker, because of the rollcage.
http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/6.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/psrivats/T61/7.jpg

Matt's repsonse to my question on Lenovoblogs about plastics on T61:
Matt Kahout wrote:Sri - You asked about thinner plastics. Yes, the top cover of the new T61 and R61 14W systems are thinner. This is partially how we kept the system weight neutral. We do not need as thick of a top cover if the Display Roll Cage is underneath doing its job of protecting the system.
Note from Moderator: Every one of these images is over the 50k limit.

Mods, am sorry ... I blame it on my excitement :(

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:32 pm
by ryengineer
Great, detailed pics.

T61 looks alot like Z series notebook though.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:39 pm
by gator
Its good to see that the "Richard Sapper Box" is still alive ... I kind of like the front edge design, wish they had it like that in the 15" models ...

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:40 pm
by sb37
looks nice. front jacks aren't as offensive as I thought they'd be, and the design looks more like the t40s than the t60s did from the front. Anyone want to do a 15.4" t60 and 14.1" t61 side-by-side to compare size difference?

Re: Hig res T61 pics from notebook review forums (PICS)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:41 pm
by pianowizard
gator wrote:The screen seems to be skightly off-center
And I find that disgusting! Many previous Thinkpads also had off-centered LCDs, but none of them looked as bad as this one. This has reinforced my decision not to buy a T61!

The overall design looks so old school. IMO, the most modern-looking Thinkpads were the T4* and X4*.

Re: Hig res T61 pics from notebook review forums (PICS)

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:44 pm
by gator
pianowizard wrote:The overall design looks so old school. IMO, the most modern-looking Thinkpads were the T4* and X4*.
T4x was the peak of thinkpad design IMHO. I love them.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:00 pm
by gt5l
I would mask the vist serial number if I were you, and since I pointer it out I would do it quickly

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:05 pm
by gator
I added one more pic, the T61 is thicker than the T4x, because of the rollcage I guess ...
gt5l wrote:I would mask the vist serial number if I were you, and since I pointer it out I would do it quickly
I can't even read the serial number ... which pic are you talkin about?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:08 pm
by ryengineer
gt5l wrote:I would mask the vist serial number if I were you, and since I pointer it out I would do it quickly
Even if you can, keep in mind it's just a demo machine.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:10 pm
by Dead1nside
Thanks for the pics, I didn't notice the skewed screen until you pointed it out. It looks quite nice. The T4x line is the peak, perhaps. I haven't had any other experience apart from my T41p.

I don't like that the battery doesn't fit across most of the back, so it means that larger batteries will protrude more.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:44 pm
by pianowizard
gator wrote:I added one more pic, the T61 is thicker than the T4x, because of the rollcage I guess ...
Thanks for the pic. I had no idea it's thicker! This is unacceptable!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:56 pm
by sb37
are there more comparison pictures? closed, side by side, perhaps?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:00 pm
by Ivan Ivankovic
ryengineer wrote:T61 looks alot like Z series notebook though.
I agree on that. and I don't like it. :(

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:01 pm
by gator
sb37 wrote:are there more comparison pictures? closed, side by side, perhaps?
I added more pics.

Dark Ages of Notebook Design

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:10 pm
by lophiomys
despite that it's a wide screen model
I can't stand that the battery is protuding at the back.
As the battery looks very small, I wonder if this is the standard battery or the exended?

Overall impression:
We are entering the Dark Ages of Thinkpad design...
:cry:

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:15 pm
by andyP
Thanx gator, a good post - good piccies :thumbs-UP:

I don't believe the 1/2 mm will bother me if it's a more stable machine, but I'm still going to wait for a 14" 4:3 or maybe a 15,4" - Jury ist still out :roll:

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:19 pm
by Troels
I only have experience with 15" TPs. But thinking about it, i think the 15" touchpad was too close to the ultranav buttons on the T4x, even though there is 2cm room to move it further away. That's where i think they hit the T60 series spot-on. Not adding bulkiness and with better functionality, but i still hate their choice of removing practically all the colors.

Now they introduce the T61 with

- odd off-center screen... i didn't see that either before you pointed it out.
- thinklight is extremely off-center
- the internal mic is just next to the touchpad and click buttons. You'd need to stop any recordnings quietly...
- And also aestetically: Why two different sizes of hinges?

Anyone knows what the use of the two "skuffed" parts to the left and top of the lcd are?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:28 pm
by andyP
Troels wrote:I only have experience with 15" TPs. But thinking about it, i think the 15" touchpad was too close to the ultranav buttons on the T4x, even though there is 2cm room to move it further away. That's where i think they hit the T60 series spot-on. Not adding bulkiness and with better functionality, but i still hate their choice of removing practically all the colors.

Now they introduce the T61 with

- odd off-center screen... i didn't see that either before you pointed it out.
- thinklight is extremely off-center
- the internal mic is just next to the touchpad and click buttons. You'd need to stop any recordnings quietly...
- And also aestetically: Why two different sizes of hinges?

Anyone knows what the use of the two "skuffed" parts to the left and top of the lcd are?
The T4x has two different sizes of hinges, (most noticable when you take it apart). Probably something to do with stability - one takes more load than the other, but I'm not an engineer.

The "skuffed" parts - good question - Aesthetics, a little weight saving 0.1g :?: :?:

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:28 pm
by sb37
there have always been two different sizes of hinges on 14" t's, at least since t4x series but probably earlier.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:40 pm
by gt5l
Gator,
its 4.jpg and my bad i thought that was your personal computer so I was trying to help you avoid some of the headaches I ran into before after posting some pictures os my computer. I had to prove to MS that I was the legit owner for them to activate my software and give me a new serial number after they blocked the old one.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:46 pm
by bin.dong
How come the audio input/output in the front? It doesn't make sense to me.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:16 pm
by agarza
My thoughts:
Having used 3 Thinkpads in my short life, I can comment on this new T61:

- Indeed the off-centre LCD looks a bit odd, but a different thing is when you're using the laptop
- I think the reason the headphone & mic-in are in the front is, what I think, that Lenovo is redirecting the T series to be consumer oriented (i.e. Multimedia laptop)
- The integrated Mic issue: I think the placement is better than in the T4x series (I was recording some audio files with my voice, but when the annoying fan comes on I can clearly hear the noise in the recording, not optimal)
- I very much like the T4x design, but a note is the fan is practically in the middle of the laptop case, so there's only one exhaust instead of 2 on the T6x laptops.

A question: In the 5.jpg pic, the palmrest material seems similar like the outer magnesium material T4x series had right?

I would even trade my T42p for a new T61. I'm assuming the presumption that is the coolest and silent Thinkpad ever, so I'm concerned in having a quiet machine.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:41 pm
by sokos
thank you Gator for your pictures, they have been very helpful.
I ve made up my mind, i m getting one :)

Only if we could also find an original IBM tricolor sticker!

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:25 pm
by Dimitri_P
Yak!

What an ugly laptop...

Sticking with my 15" T60p for a long while...

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:37 pm
by Redmumba
bin.dong wrote:How come the audio input/output in the front? It doesn't make sense to me.
Ew... noticed that as soon as I looked at the first picture. Thank god for USB headsets?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:33 pm
by ryengineer
In my viewpoint, they have turned this business oriented T series completely into multimedia machine, unless ofcourse they surprise us with upcoming models.

I don't like what lenovo has done to these thinkpads. I think they could've made people more happy by keeping the design features of T60 and offering them with 15'' IPS LCD's.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:39 pm
by hoplite
ryengineer wrote:I think they could've made people more happy by keeping the design features of T60 and offering them with 15'' IPS LCD's.
I would have loved a 15" UXGA 4:3 t60p...

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:54 pm
by pianowizard
ryengineer wrote:I think they could've made people more happy by keeping the design features of T60 and offering them with 15'' IPS LCD's.
I suspect that Lenovo is trying to gradually make the Thinkpads look more and more like their own 3000 series, and eventually merge the two.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:56 pm
by Dimitri_P
And that shall be written in the history books as a "ThinkPad Conspiracy"...

I'm serious... :idea:

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:16 pm
by JaneL
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