For those of you considering an X61 vs. T61...

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shinjiplus · #1 Post by **shinjiplus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:02 am

NOTE: i do not have an X61, i have an X41. however, since i was looking for mainly a size comparison, i hope the (forthcoming) pics will be of some help.

i just received my T61 14.1" WS (7664-17U). it is a MONSTER compared to my X41. i had seen the T61 pics, but i merely assumed it would be marginally larger than the T42/T43's i've seen at the office.

weighing in at 5.6 lbs (with 6-cell) it is almost twice the weight of my X41. i will try to post pics later, as i was unable to find the cruicial X vs T pictures to help with my choice.

needless to say, i am slightly disappointed by the T61 in initial impressions.

furrycute · #2 Post by **furrycute** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:10 am

Why didn't you order an X61 then?

#3 Post by **ryengineer** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:14 am

Several people on this forum pointed about the mass and weight of T61. You should've asked here before ordering one.

However if you're coming from an X to T-series machine then you're going to feel more of the difference.

NS · #4 Post by NS » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:36 am

Switching from an X-series to a T-series thinkpad, you will see the difference but if you are switching from an R-series to a T-series, you will like the T61.

poky · #5 Post by **poky** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:45 am

That's like most people do, included me...
Switching between X-series and T-series.
X20->T21->X31->T43p->X60s
Once I had T...then think it's too heavy to carry around, then switch to X
Once I had X...then complain the performance is not high enough, no independent graphic card...no cd drive, no SXGA+ screen
Then switch back and force...
Finally decided to stay with X61, since there's no any good comment about the new T61 series...

agarza · #6 Post by **agarza** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:51 am

Waiting the pics

fishslayeryo · #7 Post by **fishslayeryo** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:26 am

poky wrote:....since there's no any good comment about the new T61 series...

Owned my T61 for 3 days now. Don't like vista so I did a clean install of XP. I like my T61, very fast compared to my T42p... so there, you heard something good about T61

shinjiplus · #8 Post by **shinjiplus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:11 pm

ryengineer wrote:Several people on this forum pointed about the mass and weight of T61. You should've asked here before ordering one.

actually i've read everything here, and also your pictures were a great help.

however, the pics don't really do it justice. and i was unable to find any X-series vs. T61 pics.

as for why i bought a T-series laptop? i wanted something so that i could get rid of a desktop and my X41 and merge into one (i got the mini dock as well), and also i cannot fit all of outlook onto my 12.1" X41 screen very well so i wanted a larger higher resolution screen.

the T61 looks to be a little too thick, and dimension wise, 0.5" should've been shaved off the left side and the top side (my X41 screen is not centred either, so please don't bash me about the screen bezel

)

shinjiplus · #9 Post by **shinjiplus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:12 pm

xtr wrote:Waiting the pics

after it's done charging

Puppy · #10 Post by **Puppy** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:41 pm

X61 (non-tablet) with 12" SXGA+ FFS display would be perfect

pianowizard · #11 Post by **pianowizard** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:11 am

shinjiplus wrote:weighing in at 5.6 lbs (with 6-cell) it is almost twice the weight of my X41.

Did you actually weigh it yourself, or is that just a number given by Lenovo? My 14.1" SXGA+ T60 with 6-cell was 5.22 lbs. I am sure most people aren't happy with this weight increase.

shinjiplus · #12 Post by **shinjiplus** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:39 pm

i used a digital scale.

X41 w/ 4-cell: 2.8 lbs
T61 w/ 6-cell: 5.6 lbs

people above are correct, it is simply the shock from going from (one of) the smallest thinkpads ever to a larger machine.

devilsrejection · #13 Post by **devilsrejection** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:40 am

tell me about it. x40 user here, can't wait to get my 15 inch T61!

i love this little beast if it wasn't for the XGA screen

own6volvos · #14 Post by **own6volvos** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:21 pm

Well, what do you expect from going from an ultraportable to a normal laptop

The comparison between my 15" T60 and my X61 is like going from a fullsize desktop to a handheld or something. Gigantic weight difference.

danejasper · #15 Post by **danejasper** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:23 pm

How do the keyboards on the T series compared to the X series? My issue with ultraportables has always been too-small screens, cramped keyboards and mediocre battery life.

-Dane

sugo · #16 Post by **sugo** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:43 pm

The NMB keyboard on my X60s is as good as the one on my T42 for day to day usage. The Ctrl/Alt keys are smaller but I get used to it.

shinjiplus · #17 Post by **shinjiplus** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:18 pm

here are the pics:

X41 on top of T61:

X41 on top of 700m on top of T61 on top of Sony Vaio (15.4" WS):

X41 left, T61 right:

front thickness:

rear thickness:

even in pictures it doesn't look all that "MASSIVE", so i guess it was just the initial shock of getting the T61 vs. my X41

SkiBunny · #18 Post by **SkiBunny** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:11 pm

shinjiplus wrote:i just received my T61 14.1" WS (7664-17U).

#766417U is 15.4 " not 14.1"

so what did you get?

shinjiplus · #19 Post by **shinjiplus** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:26 pm

SkiBunny wrote:
shinjiplus wrote:i just received my T61 14.1" WS (7664-17U).
#766417U is 15.4 " not 14.1"

so what did you get?

in canada it is 14.1"? please see this link: lenovo site

#20 Post by **ryengineer** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:07 am

SkiBunny wrote:
shinjiplus wrote:i just received my T61 14.1" WS (7664-17U).
#766417U is 15.4 " not 14.1"

766417U is 14.1 WS in US as well, the model-type is reserved for such sort of machine and 15.4 won't be added to it.

SkiBunny · #21 Post by **SkiBunny** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:03 pm

hmm yup... it was wrongly identified on the EPP site as 15.4"

Tholek · #22 Post by **Tholek** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:36 pm

shinjiplus wrote:X41 on top of 700m on top of T61 on top of Sony Vaio (15.4" WS):

Heh. Is that an FS series VAIO? I have an 8900P3. Nice comparison to a T61. (Did you install Vista on the VAIO?)

hulao2 · #23 Post by **hulao2** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:48 pm

shinjiplus wrote: i just received my T61 14.1" WS (7664-17U). it is a MONSTER compared to my X41. i had seen the T61 pics, but i merely assumed it would be marginally larger than the T42/T43's i've seen at the office.

so, you think the T61 is a lot bigger in size compared to the T42/T43's?

phillipk · #24 Post by **phillipk** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:47 am

I had the T40 and recently upgraded to the T60 WS. For the longest time I felt the new machine was HUGE in comparison--and still do when I go pick up the old machine. But, it's really only marginally larger and less than 1 pound heavier. My point is mainly that it doesn't take much to make you feel a difference.

I have a weird feeling of satisfaction when I see someone with a bigger machine.

skanky · #25 Post by **skanky** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:31 am

i went from a T42 to a T60 and recently someone at work brought in their X60 and wow i want! but i didnt think X60's did a 1400x1050 res like my T60 does so i opted for the T60 which i'm happy with.

asiafish · #26 Post by **asiafish** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:12 am

I've got a 14.1" SGA+ T60 and an X41 with the usual 12" XGA and can mirror the sentiment of many, that the something in between a T and an X would be "just right". I want my Goldilocks ThinkPad.

#27 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:17 am

asiafish wrote:I've got a 14.1" SGA+ T60 and an X41 with the usual 12" XGA and can mirror the sentiment of many, that the something in between a T and an X would be "just right". I want my Goldilocks ThinkPad.

Bring back the 600X with new hardware!

The 13.3" display is "just right".

I miss my 600E.

asiafish · #28 Post by **asiafish** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:40 am

Too thick. I'm thinking more of something like a 570 but with an optical drive, 4lb weight and an SXGA screen at 13 inches in a smaller case, perhaps a smidge larger than an X20. The tech exists, sadly just not the market.

#29 Post by **gator** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:13 pm

asiafish wrote:Too thick. I'm thinking more of something like a 570 but with an optical drive, 4lb weight and an SXGA screen at 13 inches in a smaller case, perhaps a smidge larger than an X20. The tech exists, sadly just not the market.

I'd love a machine in that size. Sadly, as you so rightly say, we won't see it.

pianowizard · #30 Post by **pianowizard** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:32 am

GomJabbar wrote:Bring back the 600X with new hardware!

The 13.3" display is "just right".

A 13.3" SXGA+ display would be nice.

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