difference between T61 to T61p video card only ?

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danny_isr · #1 Post by **danny_isr** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:10 pm

i configured two machines. i noticed the only difference is the video card between the machines.

NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M (128MB) Vs NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (128MB).

price between the machines came out $129.
is that the ONLY difference between P to a none P machine, the video card ?
is that video card woth the difference ?

this is the configuration :

Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz 800MHz 4MBL2) 1
Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 1
Operating System Language : Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium US English 1
Display type: 14.1 SXGA+ TFT 1
System graphics: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M (128MB) w/o WWAN 1
Total memory: 1 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (1 DIMM) 1
Keyboard: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing Device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader 1
Hard Drive: 100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm 1
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim 1
System expansion slots: PC Card Slot & Express Card Slot 1
Wireless Card: ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi wireless LAN Mini-PCIe US/EMEA/LA/ANZ 1
Battery: 6 cell Li-Ion Battery 1
Country Pack: Country Pack North America 1
Modem cable (RJ-11): PSTN cable 1
Language Pack: Language Pack US English

kEndE · #2 Post by **kEndE** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:07 am

I would like to know this too and why everybody is ordering with t7500 processor instead of t7300 ? Is that 0.2 Ghz worth that $110 bucks?

danny_isr · #3 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:44 am

well for me this CPU is the "Sweet spot" seems i get the most on this one for the money. there is always one like that when i order a new PC. one before the big jump in $$
to tell you if $110 worth 0.2Ghz that's hard to tell. probably not

#4 Post by **ryengineer** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:06 am

danny_isr wrote:
is that the ONLY difference between P to a none P machine, the video card ?

I believe yes.

danny_isr wrote:is that video card woth the difference ?

Depends merely on your usuage and requirement(s), if you do intensive graphics work (C.A.D and games) then yes, however if you're more concerned about battery life then no. The better/higher/advanced the gpu, the more the power consumption will be, i.e. the more the battery life will suffer.

danny_isr · #5 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:09 am

thanks for your reply !

i remember the T4x the P models where into CAD but not really into games. the drivers wherent optimized for them.
is this the case here as well ? or the T61P video is just better card overall ?

danny_isr · #6 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:35 am

Anyone got real life experience with thie nvidia quadro FX 570m card ?

from reading about it a little seems the performance is there ! question is about heat and battery life .

thanks Dan

danny_isr · #7 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:50 am

just ordered this :

8891CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM

42V8191 INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7500
42V8011 VBB MS WIN VISTA HOME PREMIUM
42X1954 SBB MSWVISHMPRM64 US ENGLISH
42V8285 SBB 14.1 SXGA+ TFT
42X0811 SBB NVID Q FX 570M W/-WWAN
41W2060 VBB 1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 1DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8296 SBB UN(TRCKP+TOUCHPAD)FINGERRE
42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0805 VBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
41W1685 SBB 11ABGWIFI WL LAN USEULAANZ
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH AMERICA
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
42X1524 SBB LP-US ENGLISH

memory of course will be upgraded soon.

I still want to know about the heat/battery with this video card.
if anyone have experience with it i would love to hear.

thanks Dan

Pascal_TTH · #8 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:59 am

danny_isr wrote:thanks for your reply !

i remember the T4x the P models where into CAD but not really into games. the drivers wherent optimized for them.
is this the case here as well ? or the T61P video is just better card overall ?

T61(p) come with 3 graphic chips :
- X3100 : poor performances, shared memory, silence and battery life
- Quadro NVS 140m : good performances, blanced between performances and battery life (same for heat)
- Quadro FX 570m : excellent performances (about 2 times 140m), heat and less battery life

Quadro (FireGL) can run games the way as GeForce (Radeon). It's the same chip but *pro* GPU have a specific OpenGL driver.

I don't know about differences for noise and heat. Not a lot of people have both to compare !

danny_isr · #9 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:04 am

well i guess i will have to try it myself then.... it was only $80 more for me to go with the P. and get twice the perfomance of the 140 i thought it was worth it.

i remember the days that to get a P model you had to put sometimes $1000 more....

Pascal_TTH · #10 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:23 am

Well, it worth !

danny_isr · #11 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:12 am

what is the UWB and are all T61p comes with it or is that an option ?

http://www.dailytechrag.com/story/lenov ... 2007-07-10

pheos · #12 Post by **pheos** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:13 pm

The Quadro 570mis well worth the extra 130 USD, Battery live will not be noticeable less compared to the 140 NVS (as long as you don't play games on battery power) but you will gain more then twice the power for games and 3d Applications...

I can't wait to get my baby...

paOol · #13 Post by **paOol** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:34 pm

if it makes u feel better, the 570M got a higher 3dmark06 benchmark score than the Macbook Pro's video card.

agarza · #14 Post by **agarza** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:45 pm

I will be waiting for pics on the new T61p. To me the 14.1" 4:3 is the sweet form.

#15 Post by **ryengineer** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:35 pm

danny_isr wrote:I still want to know about the heat/battery with this video card. if anyone have experience with it i would love to hear.

I have not seen customers having any complains with 570m gpu, the test models I saw remained cool and calm while standing and delivering the performance. Your battery would last around 2:50 to 3:15 mins. or max. 3:30 mins on variable optimized settings. Based on that you can take a hunch how things would be on torture settings.

#16 Post by **ryengineer** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:42 pm

danny_isr wrote:what is the UWB and are all T61p comes with it or is that an option ?

Basically it's a wireless antenna that allows you to connect with USB devices wirelessly. See this for more info.

Only T61/p 15.4 W comes with UWB.

danny_isr · #17 Post by **danny_isr** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:42 pm

well this is what i wanted to hear. sounds like the P is the way to go with those prices.
the battery life you mention is about what i'm getting now on my T43 and 6 Cells and i'm ok with that. i'm not using it much on battery anyhow except flights , but that is pretty rare.

UWB well if thats only 15" option , then all i can say is oh well

thanks !

danny_isr · #18 Post by **danny_isr** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:25 am

one more question , is 128M video card is optimal for VIsta or 256M ?

thanks Danny

Pascal_TTH · #19 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:57 am

danny_isr wrote:one more question , is 128M video card is optimal for VIsta or 256M ?

thanks Danny

128 MB is enough for Window Vista Aero Glass interface. It's also quiet enough for most games (except very high end graphic engine in more then 1024x768).

danny_isr · #20 Post by **danny_isr** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:35 pm

42X0811 SBB NVID Q FX 570M W/-WWAN

does this mean With WWAN ?

difference between T61 to T61p video card only ?

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