sleeve or no sleeve

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sleeve or no sleeve

#1 Post by t61puser » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:37 pm

debating whether i should spend the money on gettin a sleeve for my t61p. i know thinkpads are known for their sturdyness. but i just want to get a sense on how many of you are actually using sleeves to protect your thinkpads?

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#2 Post by ocellaris » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:52 pm

how are you planning on carrying around the notebook and how often will you be travelling with it?

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#3 Post by Tholek » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 pm

Sleeve.

Most people seem to regret not getting one once a few scratches appear.
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#4 Post by rukiri » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:22 am

I'm glad I use a sleeve.

You may be able to ride a motorbike over the new T61's, but that doesn't mean it won't scratch as easily as anything else.

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#5 Post by NathanA » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:26 am

rukiri wrote:You may be able to ride a motorbike over the new T61's, but that doesn't mean it won't scratch as easily as anything else.
MORE easily, I'd say. I absolutely love the rubberized coating/paint/whatever that they put on the LCD cover...makes the ThinkPad feel all the more luxurious. It's like having premium leather seats. ;) But! it is the hardest darned thing to properly take care of, and scratches and scuffs up way more easily than textured plastic, not to mention attracts fingerprints like nothing else.

(By the way, I really don't get it...I must have really dry hands, or everyone else I know has really oily hands, because I can touch the LCD cover all day long and not get anything on it, but if I hand the laptop to someone else, I have to take a washcloth to it when they're done, it looks so bad. And not because the person I handed it to just ate a greasy slice of pizza or anything. Oh, and none of those prints will ever come off completely...you can still see them faintly under certain lighting/angles and they show up everytime you try to clean the LCD cover again...the water beads around them in such a way that they are revealed to the eye, telling me there is still something not native to the rubber coating at that spot.)

Can you tell I have a love/hate thing going on with this material? :?

Sleeve. No question about it. You will not be sorry.

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#6 Post by NS » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:02 am

The sleeve is designed to protect the notebooks regardless of what brand..

Use a sleeve or else you will regret when scratches appear on your thinkpad..and also the sleeve also helps to protect the thinkpad from water and rain...

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#7 Post by Army Chief » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:36 am

Agree. Use of a sleeve is just good operating practice, no matter what type of notebook you're using; so much the more when you've got a high-end ThinkPad. A sleeve may or may not offer much protection in the event of a serious impact, but it will surely go a long way toward keeping the finish and overall appearance of your machine in top condition.

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#8 Post by jonnylaw » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:37 pm

r u guys using a sleeve in addition to a leather/nylon attache case or other bag designed to houseca laptop on the go?

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Re: sleeve or no sleeve

#9 Post by mattbiernat » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:46 pm

I never got any sleeve for my T60. Right now after 1 year of heavy usage I got 3 scratches. One of them could have been protected by a sleeve and the other two were done during normal usage. I really don't mind those scraches. They don't look so bad on my thinkpad and I kinda like it more that way. Feels more like mine, more like a thinkpad. One drawback of a sleeve is that you might oneday forget and put your computer into standby. And then you are screwed.
However if you want to resell your laptop and you gonna baby sit it then go for it.

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#10 Post by T7TrainingSystems » Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:43 pm

I used the sleeve for about a month before I decided to stop using it. Apart from being an extra step between me and my Thinkpad...

- I have one scratch on the lid, it's on the top corner and I'm pretty sure it came from the zip on the sleeve itself.

- The travel bag is a safe scratch-free environment, I don't see how the sleeve improves that.

- Pulling out the Thinkpad from your bag in front of someone to use in a meeting or such becomes too much of an 'event' as you remove it from the sleeve and pack the sleeve away.

I stopped using it after a month, very happy with the choice. Am I the only person who feels this way??
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Re: A dissenter!!

#11 Post by Tholek » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:01 am

T7TrainingSystems wrote:-I have one scratch on the lid, it's on the top corner and I'm pretty sure it came from the zip on the sleeve itself.
If true, you picked a bad sleeve. :(
T7TrainingSystems wrote:-The travel bag is a safe scratch-free environment, I don't see how the sleeve improves that.
Well, snugness makes a difference. If the bag allows shifting, then you'll still get some wear, although not deep scratches.
T7TrainingSystems wrote:Pulling out the Thinkpad from your bag in front of someone to use in a meeting or such becomes too much of an 'event' as you remove it from the sleeve and pack the sleeve away.
That I don't get. I see no reason to be self-conscious about removing it from a sleeve. I see many others do that. It's not like a car cover. :)
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#12 Post by rukiri » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:33 am

If I carried my thinkpad in it's own bag, or in such a way that it would be scratch-safe, I wouldn't bother with a sleeve. Generally, I think the sleeve is just a means to protect it from other objects in your bag.

I'm a grad student and i'm always pulling books out, shoving binders in. There's no separate compartment for my laptop in my backpack. If I didn't have a sleeve, I'm sure the lid of my thinkpad would be a mess.

On the other hand, if I used a bag that had some kind of separate area for the laptop, so it would be safe from these kinds of scratches, then I wouldn't bother with a sleeve.

It all depends on your own use.

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#13 Post by NS » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:54 am

Why don't you guys invest in a Zeroshock III laptop sleeve?? It is a wonderful sleeve for all my thinkpads. :P

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#14 Post by vince_wonk » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:20 pm

NS wrote:Why don't you guys invest in a Zeroshock III laptop sleeve?? It is a wonderful sleeve for all my thinkpads. :P
Agree...

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#15 Post by vince_wonk » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:22 pm

NS wrote:Why don't you guys invest in a Zeroshock III laptop sleeve?? It is a wonderful sleeve for all my thinkpads. :P
Agree...which size do you use for your thinkpad? can i fit 14'1 inch zeroshock for my ThinkPad T61 14 Wide+6cell? or is it better to use 15 inch?

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#16 Post by mattbiernat » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:59 pm

<--- no bag, no sleeve - just a bare and naked T60 here.

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Re: A dissenter!!

#17 Post by NathanA » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:17 pm

T7TrainingSystems wrote:I have one scratch on the lid, it's on the top corner and I'm pretty sure it came from the zip on the sleeve itself.
I use a zipperless/fold-over flap model with a strap to hold the flap down in palce.
T7TrainingSystems wrote:The travel bag is a safe scratch-free environment, I don't see how the sleeve improves that.
You're lucky, then...even in a bag intended for it, I've had wear marks show up on ThinkPads without sleeves in the past. However, the inside of my sleeve is extremely soft and non-abrasive, and it also conforms to the shape of my laptop.
T7TrainingSystems wrote:Pulling out the Thinkpad from your bag in front of someone to use in a meeting or such becomes too much of an 'event' as you remove it from the sleeve and pack the sleeve away.
Another advantage to the 'sleeveless' model...you pull it out of the bag, rip open the flap, take the notebook out with one tug, and throw the sleeve back in the bag. A 5 second 'ritual.'
T7TrainingSystems wrote:I stopped using it after a month, very happy with the choice. Am I the only person who feels this way??
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I sure don't. :)

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#18 Post by NS » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:15 am

vince_wonk wrote:
NS wrote:
Just try it out in the shops. My 15" thinkpad fitted just nicely into the 15" sleeve with a bit of allowances at the zip.

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