T60/ ATI X1400 and CCC. No CCC but ATI Tray Tools instead!

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Marie-Anne · #1 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:45 am

Hi folks,

I've a T60 with ATI X1400 onboard. Installed latest graphics driver from Lenovo site.

ATI provides Catalyst Control Centre:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catal ... deonxip-xp
Is there anyone who has experiences with ATI CCC, in combination with ATI X1400?

Is it compatible? What could it offer me?
I'm scared to install it, but I like a bit more brighter screen.

steveg47 · #2 Post by **steveg47** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:05 pm

The CCC is installed with the Lenovo ATI driver package. You should already have it installed.

Marie-Anne · #3 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:55 pm

Hi Steve,

A couple of weeks ago I've installed XP Pro from scratch (fresh clean install of the OS and incl. removal of hidden partition).

All wanted newest Lenovo drivers were installed incl. ATI driver. However, I discovered that CCC was NOT installed, although the install exe file was available anywhere in c://drivers/win/graphics.

I started the installation of CCC, followed instructions, and the software installed without any problem. Then, restarted the notebook but till yet, I'm not able to find the CCC utility on the notebook. I tried installing it twice, but it proved it has been succesfully installed (choices were: remove and repair).

I've not found any CCC icon, anywhere on the desktop, in programs and/or configuration.

I'm clueless for now and looking for any suggestion to solve the problem.

steveg47 · #4 Post by **steveg47** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:15 pm

This is what I recommend you try:

Deinstall the ATI driver. Reboot. Download and install net framework versions 1.1 and 2. Download the latest ATI driver from lenovo and unpack it to c:\drivers\win\video. Run setup.exe in the c:\drivers\win\video folder. Make sure that the option to install CCC is checked during the installation.

Good luck

rleo25 · #5 Post by **rleo25** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:53 am

If CCC has been properly installed, when doing a right click on the desktop you will find the option: ATI Catalyst Control Center. Good luck

Marie-Anne · #6 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:10 am

Hi steveg47,

Thanks to your recommendation I succeeded getting the CCC utility on my T60.!!!

You've made my day!

Marie-Anne

Pascal_TTH · #7 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:23 am

I don't use .Net and don't want it on my system. So, I use the Lenovo or ATI driver only with the desktop control panel for FireGL.

With Mobility X1400, you can use any *hacked* driver with regular CP and mod them with some software (I don't remember the name like mobility modder).

Catalyst Control Center need .Net
Older Control Panel don't need .Net

With old CP, you don't have access to some features that are most time not suitable with small mobile GPU (Anti aliasing, Catalyst IA and Anisotropic filtering).

BTW, you can use Omega driver or, if your are common with driver, tweaks and mods, do your own custom ones.

PS : I don't like CCC because load time is to big. Also, reactivity from the CCC when you mark/unmark fonctions is a pitty.

steveg47 · #8 Post by **steveg47** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:10 am

Marie-Anne wrote:Hi steveg47,

Thanks to your recommendation I succeeded getting the CCC utility on my T60.!!!

You've made my day!

Marie-Anne

My pleasure

Marie-Anne · #9 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:49 pm

Hello Pascal,

I'm in a learning process, and your comment is always so much appreciated.

My T60 has an ATI X1400 onboard. The screen: a LG Flexview!!
I've a Canon EOS 30D and like to edit my photos on my notebook, if I'm not able to do it at home.

Consequently, I want to calibrate the monitorscreen. Unfortunately, there's no hardware solution to tweak contrast and brightness.
So, I thought CCC could help me, filling the gap.

I've installed CCC, following steve47 recommendation.
Shortly after that, I had a weird problem: an uncontrolled drifting/jumping of the mouse cursor (I'm using a USB Thinkpad mouse). (I'm so sorry steve47 to inform you about this!!!)Uninstalling CCC did NOT help.
However, installing the Lenovo mouse driver, solved the problem (I never had this problem before using CCC).

Is there any other adequate solution to calibrate individually contrast and brightness of my T60 flexview screen to my likes (f.i. with Adobe Gamma), without using CCC?

Pascal_TTH · #10 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:53 pm

I don't have used the CCC from a long time but they should have the same settings as the older CP (see screen capture).

http://www.tt-hardware.com/img/news5/news151007_7.gif

If you have to calibrate your screen, you need to buy something like : Spyder2 suite
http://www.colorvision.com/product-mc-s2s.php

It will create an ICM profile for your screen to have the best color rendering.

Marie-Anne · #11 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:16 pm

Hi Pascal,

I'll defenitely look if I can download and install the ATI Control Panel. I know it's favoured by many people over CCC.

I'm sure the Spyder2 suite, is the ultimate solution for calibrating any monitor. Problem is that my TP60 provides the opportunity to change BRIGHTNESS ONLY (Fn+Home/End keys!!!).
Do you know of any key-combination to change Contrast, and the basic colours (magenta etc.)?
The individual change of Brightnes, Contrast and basic colours is required to use Spyder2 effectively, isn't?

Pascal_TTH · #12 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:26 am

Marie-Anne, the settings from the driver are not linked to the *hardware* brightness. No matter witch level is set with Fn + Home/End, the driver allow an other brightness range.

To have the best color rendering, you need to find the good driver settings. There are some online websites with some explanations about how to reach a good rendering without any extra hardware.

I don't remember the URL.

You need CCC ou CP to have a tab for color fine tuning.

Marie-Anne · #13 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:27 am

Marie-Anne wrote:Hi Pascal,

I'll defenitely look if I can download and install the ATI Control Panel. I know it's favoured by many people over CCC.

Pascal,
No luck with Ati CP. I've downloaded ATI control Panel from:
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/firemv-xp.html

It refuses to install as this version is not compatible with ATI X1400.
Any other solution?

Pascal_TTH · #14 Post by **Pascal_TTH** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:36 am

Hi Marie-Anne,

You can download older Catalyst sych 7.5. Try to install, it will fail. Go in the ATI folder and run c:\ATI\...\Catalyst 7.5\CPanel\setup.exe

This must goes fine. For my FireGL, I get the driver from Lenovo (only the driver) and get a quiet olc version of the CP for desktop FireGL (due to T60p use a FireGL).

Just to have driver (and not AMD ballshit with CCC and .Net), I will switch fast from T60p to a futher T61 with 45 nm CPU.

Marie-Anne · #15 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:13 am

Hi Pascal,

Sorry for my delayed reply, but I've found a great alternative for ATI Control Panel:

ATI Tray Tools for W2K, XP, Server 2003 (NOT Vista compatible):
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733
http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=33

Works great on my T60 Flexview screen!

Ciau,
Marie-Anne

dtzihe · #16 Post by **dtzihe** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:07 pm

I have this same config (T60 with X1400 and CCC), but I cannot get my "Always on top" to work. When I right click on a window or open the Hydravision Individual Application Settings menu on the toolbar, the "always on top" option is just blanked out. What is wrong here? I know that it has worked before. Thanks!

Marie-Anne · #17 Post by **Marie-Anne** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:40 pm

dtzihe,

I've installed the IBM ATI driver WITHOUT CCC.
CCC is too large for my taste (and my RAM).
Instead I installed ATI Tray Tools.

May be deinstalling CCC could solve your problem, if possible. Otherwise, remove ATI softare completely, then reinstall it, but uncheck CCC during process of the ATI software installation.

dtzihe · #18 Post by **dtzihe** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:41 pm

Hi,

So I uninstalled ATI CCC and Hydravision, leading to my computer's displays behaving funkily (ie, wrong resolution). So, I reinstalled the IBM/Lenovo drivers (file 79d165ww) and that fixed th resolutions and also reinstalled CCC. But, my menu bar no longer had the menu bar that included the option for "always on top". I then reinstalled Hydravision, which restored the menu bar, but "always on top" was blanked out and could not be used, just like before!

Help!

Thanks.

T60/ ATI X1400 and CCC. No CCC but ATI Tray Tools instead!

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