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So I got my new T60p...I simply want to transfer all 80GB worth of files from one to the other.

Both share the following characteristics: 100GB each, XP SP2/Vista Ultimate dual-boot, on the same network, Even the same darn antenna, and both have virtually the Core Duo CPU. LOL...I'm overlooking something small. I know it.

I haven't tried it under XP yet. Vista to Vista was my idea.

This is the final step to my new and beloved T60p. Please help.

Thank you all!

Crunch wrote:snipped

Well you are not really saying what is breaking down. That would be most helpful to know. Taking a guess here Norton Firewall is preventing the two computers from seeing each other. But without more input that is simply a wild common guess.

DUH ME LOL...Yea, you're right of course. I use McAfee on the one, and the Vista Firewall on the other. Hmm...I can just scrap the McAfee, and use Vista's Firewall on both if that makes it easier. But thanks for thinking of that.

Well, nothing is breaking down. I'm just moving my 60-80GB of files over to my new T60p.

Easy Transfer was the obvious choice in retrospect, so it wasa breeze to configure both Thinkpads, let Easy Transfer through the firewall, and it worked. However, boy is it slow...

So I guess I'll do a wired transfer later. It still surprised me as to how slow it was using 802.11g WiFi.

You guys think Windows Vista's Easy Transfer is the easiest. I don't need ANY of my settings, etc., so files ONLY! I'm open to any and all alternatives.

I have someone coming on Monday to buy the T60p with the 15" SXGA+ w/IPS screen, so I better have this done asap.

Hook them up directly to each other with ethernet. Should be a gigabit connection that way I believe. Then just use regular file sharing to copy the files.

My favorite way is using a USB-SATA adapter, but you probably don't have one lying around.

aaa wrote:Hook them up directly to each other with ethernet. Should be a gigabit connection that way I believe. Then just use regular file sharing to copy the files.

My favorite way is using a USB-SATA adapter, but you probably don't have one lying around.

Oh, good idea...They both have 1GB Ethernet. That'd be awesome! Don't have the adapter, no. Why is that your favorite as the other one is so much easier if it works. Thanks!

Crunch wrote:

aaa wrote:Hook them up directly to each other with ethernet. Should be a gigabit connection that way I believe. Then just use regular file sharing to copy the files.

My favorite way is using a USB-SATA adapter, but you probably don't have one lying around.

Oh, good idea...They both have 1GB Ethernet. That'd be awesome! Don't have the adapter, no. Why is that your favorite as the other one is so much easier if it works. Thanks!

Well I've found it to be the fastest way..

correct me if i'm wrong here... if you ad-hoc two thinkpads directly together then you have to use an ethernet crossover cable, otherwise you must use a switch in between.   i keep a 1m crossover cable in my bag for this very reason.

The new nics are auto sensing so you can use a straight cable but you will need to assign static IP addresses to both machines since there is no DHCP server to hand out IP's.

the easiest way is to get a cross-over cable and just plug it in the ethernet ports!

using a straight cable will be difficult and cause problems for novice users

The built in NIC is auto sensing and NO crossover cable is necessary. Just a regular patch cord will work nicely with no setup required.

One way that I would copy the files would be to remove the hard drive and connect to the other computer with either a USB enclosure or an adapter cable such as this.

Brad

Brad wrote:The built in NIC is auto sensing and NO crossover cable is necessary. Just a regular patch cord will work nicely with no setup required.

One way that I would copy the files would be to remove the hard drive and connect to the other computer with either a USB enclosure or an adapter cable such as this.

Brad

cool...didn't know about this NIC thing...

now, do both comps need to have this NIC sensing to work? or only just 1? Thanks

Since the NIC adjusts automatically it doesn't matter.

Nice feature that is helpful to diagnose network trouble.

I don't think this feature is special for ThinkPads. It is pretty standard nowadays.

Brad

Brad wrote:The built in NIC is auto sensing and NO crossover cable is necessary. Just a regular patch cord will work nicely with no setup required.

I can confirm that. I transfer files between my Dell desktop and Thinkpad R50p in this manner everyday. Just set up the IP addresses for both computers manually (I use 10.10.10.1 and 10.10.10.2), and share the folders you want to copy from/to.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Well, I set up both OS's with only those Thinkvantage options I need. I am stunned as to how much faster it appears to be. Where does this speed come from? The 166MHz gained by the T2600 over the T2500, combined with 7,200rpm over 5,400rpm?

Anyway, I hooked up both units to the router by way of Ethernet, only to find out that I have to plug them into the wall, as the process "will take a long time". Couldn't do it, as I needed it to work on.

Next, I tried the Ethernet cable and simply connected them. Nothing happened. Neither NIC detected the cable. How would I set this up with changing the IP address??

So if I can't get this Ethernet to work before I go to bed tonight, I'll take them both downstairs to the router with their respective AC adapters, and use Easy Transfer.

I did watch it copy one 500MB one time. My God, that took forever. I need 100 times that transferred. 50GB. Again, no settings, OS's, profiles, etc. Files ONLY. Maybe I should just burn DVD's? How long would 50GB take using the router with WIRED Ethernet, not WiFi?

Thanks again guys!

Crunch wrote:Thank you everyone for your suggestions. Well, I set up both OS's with only those Thinkvantage options I need. I am stunned as to how much faster it appears to be. Where does this speed come from? The 166MHz gained by the T2600 over the T2500, combined with 7,200rpm over 5,400rpm?

Pretty sure it's just the 7200. And being "fresh".

Next, I tried the Ethernet cable and simply connected them. Nothing happened. Neither NIC detected the cable. How would I set this up with changing the IP address??

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm
Skip to step 5. You make the addresses up, like setting one to 192.168.3.1 and the second to 192.168.3.2.

File sharing: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sha ... haring.htm
Dunno if it'll be faster than EasyTransfer.

aaa wrote: Pretty sure it's just the 7200. And being "fresh".

File sharing: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sha ... haring.htm
Dunno if it'll be faster than EasyTransfer.

AWESOME...Thank you, sir.

I know what you mean by "fresh". Although my Windows folder is 8.81GB now, and the old one was 9.5GB, so...

Man, this thing R-O-C-K-S. lol...I'll keep this baby for a while. It's the third Thinkpad this year alone I've upgraded to. LOL...

Crunch wrote:Although my Windows folder is 8.81GB now, and the old one was 9.5GB, so...

mine is 13.6GB with vista ultimate x64.

erik wrote:

Crunch wrote:Although my Windows folder is 8.81GB now, and the old one was 9.5GB, so...

mine is 13.6GB with vista ultimate x64.

You little tease you... Alright, where's that T7600? lol

Yo Crunch,
Another transfer option if you don't want to use optical media (why waste DVD/Rs when you can use a DVD/RW, but they are typically a LOT slower burning, but that also means less burn errors) is to get yourself the largest USB flash drive you want to spend money on. Useful in the future too for additional storage, or get yourself one that's Vista Readyboost capable and it provide additional QUICK cache memory for Vista.
Get a FAST one and it might provide quicker data transfers than your experiencing with your peer-to-peer NIC connection (although that should SMOKE with gigabit-to-gigabit).

Chuck

USMC_Sniper wrote:Yo Crunch,
Another transfer option...is to get yourself the largest USB flash drive you want to spend money on. Useful in the future too for additional storage, or get yourself one that's Vista Readyboost capable and it provide additional QUICK cache memory for Vista.

Chuck

Hey Chuck,

I ended up killing two birds with one stone. I used DVD-R's, as all of those files needed to be simply stored anyway. Took about an hour and 12 DVD's lol...I'm glad it's done because I was constantly running out of space.

I hear you on the USB flash drive. I bought my dad a 2GB one for Christmas last year and he LOVES it. The convenience aspect alone. I definitely want one that's Vista ReadyBoost-capable!

About a year ago, 2GB is what they had in the store. I would want like a 6-8GB one with encryption, etc.

Vista ReadyBoost...I gotta read up on that. I just called the folks at Microsoft (the outsourced ones in India ) and re-activated my Vista Ultimate key, so now it's time to upgrade this baby, as if it was necessary. lol...

That's great Josh, at least you have an "archive" now.
I've been pricing the flash drives in places like Best Buy, Compusa, Circuit City, etc. and they have up to 16 GB. They're still a bit too expensive, but you can get an 8 GB for 100 bucks. The ReadyBoost ones are a little more expensive, IIRC, but now's the time to buy with the holidays and all...
I borrowed a 4 gig Cruzer from someone at work and the data transfer speed was really nice. I sustained almost 50 MBPS. But when I tried and offload it to my USB 1.0 server, I wasn't even getting 1 MBPS. So study up on them a little and get one with good throughput.

Enjoy it, and thanks again!

Crunch wrote:

USMC_Sniper wrote:

MOD EDIT: Kindly trim down your excessive quoting, thanks.