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imnotahippie wrote:i just tryed the over clocking and with the ati tool and the tp fan control. i ran mine at

640
950

watched the little ati cube thing and went out for a smoke. when i came back my screen was all fuzzy and flickering. tp fan control showed it running at 86°C

did i do something wrong like not running the core at 650?

anyways thanks guys.

that's not really a good way to start overclocking. You want to start conservatively and move up not one big overclock to start - that's just asking for trouble. And 640 is very high. Just because someone got theirs to 650 doesn't mean every 570M can do that. I'd say start at 525 and move slowly up. Don't be surprised if you can't go over 600 without having artifacts.

hey thanks man. i can go upto 635/950 with out any artifacts.
and yes i am kind of new to the overclocking. the only time i ever overclocked anything was back like 4 years ago and it was a amd athlon 1600+ and the just cooked it since then i have not tried it tell now.

anyways thanks again guys.


EDIT: hey guys. i played around with this overclocking thing and i must say i am impressed.

i ran 3dmarks 06 and with out modding anything i got 4217 on my score.witch i was highly surprised. then i set my OC to 635/950 and got a score of 5341.

anyways thanks for bringing ati tools to my attention.

As I already said, the FX570 is a blessing. Looks like most of them are highly overclockable. And mine may be exceptionnal.

That's a very nice OC notahippie!

Somehow on mine I can't get it over 590 for GPU. Memory I can go 900 and more but my GPu seems to not like hi clocks. It'll run 3dmo6 fine at 600/900 but on games it'll play fine for a bit before the nvidia driver resets. The temps are fine...never break the 75C barrier. When it resets the clocks go down to 290 which makes everything slow down to a crawl.

Does anyone know if there's a tool to reset the driver without having to reboot?

Also I'm using rivatuner to overclock, no reset function there. Atitool won't run on 64bit...not sure what effect that has on the oc.

Yeah, I tried overclocking, but it would cause a lot of my games to crash (nvlddmkm), even when 3DMark ran fine. If you were overclocking, for some reason this will prevent the driver from clocking the card back at Performance 3D levels after the crash. If you check with RivaTuner, you'll see that speeds remain at 2D levels when you start up the games again. This causes the stuttering. When you turn off driver level overclocking, the driver recovers itself properly and you don't have to restart.

Pocket Aces wrote:When you turn off driver level overclocking, the driver recovers itself properly and you don't have to restart.

So there's away to reset the clocks back w/o a restart...thanks for that tip. Wished I had known about that before .

hey guys. just thought i would give you some feedback as to what i used/did
i used the drivers and modded .inf file that Estrogen Kid recommended
found here: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/ind ... opic=16430

then i used ati tool and tp fan control. and ran lots of tests and games ans so far have not had a problem. showing the degree's that ati tool offers after running 3dmarks 06 with out OC it went up to 82°C. and with OC it never got over 84°C but then again running all my games it stayed around 76 to 79°C.

but i have not had any game crashes. these are the games i tested:

Bioshock ran 1280X800 with everything on and at max settings i got 35-45fps.
battlefield 2142 1440X1050 with everything on and max settings was 50 to 60fps at all times.
counter strike was 1680X1050 and ran just fine. played for several hours.
grand theft auto san andreas 1680X1050 with max on everything was around 120fps.

3dmarks 06 gave me a 5341 with 635/950 and 5387 with 635/1000. i found that running my core at 640 and up would cause problems. but thats just for me.
also when the games stopped it would set back to 169/100 with out restarting. then when using any 3d apps it went back to the OC.

anyways i hope this helps you guys out with your over clocking.

badblood wrote:

Pocket Aces wrote:When you turn off driver level overclocking, the driver recovers itself properly and you don't have to restart.

So there's away to reset the clocks back w/o a restart...thanks for that tip. Wished I had known about that before .

Actually, you have to restart before turning off driver-level overclocking takes effect. Basically, if you want the driver to fully recover itself, you can't overclock.

Pocket Aces wrote: Actually, you have to restart before turning off driver-level overclocking takes effect. Basically, if you want the driver to fully recover itself, you can't overclock.

I just tested it again this time and using your suggestion to see if I won't need to restart after a driver crash.

Turning off oc and going back to default on rivatuner won't reset the clocks back to default after the nvldkmm crash. I still need to force a restart otherwise the clocks will stay at 2d mode (169/300).
Restarting a 3d app won't revert clocks to default only a restart :/.

But it seems I'm getting better results (stable) using ntune vs rivatuner to OC . Wished I could run atitool. Maybe my 570M just isn't oc material.

badblood wrote:

Pocket Aces wrote: Actually, you have to restart before turning off driver-level overclocking takes effect. Basically, if you want the driver to fully recover itself, you can't overclock.

I just tested it again this time and using your suggestion to see if I won't need to restart after a driver crash.

Turning off oc and going back to default on rivatuner won't reset the clocks back to default after the nvldkmm crash. I still need to force a restart otherwise the clocks will stay at 2d mode (169/300).
Restarting a 3d app won't revert clocks to default only a restart :/.

But it seems I'm getting better results (stable) using ntune vs rivatuner to OC . Wished I could run atitool. Maybe my 570M just isn't oc material.

Are you sure? Did you disable driver level overclocking, uncheck the box that lets RivaTuner start automatically, restart, and then test the game? After that, the nVidia driver shouldn't be affected by RivaTuner anymore.

Pocket Aces wrote: Are you sure? Did you disable driver level overclocking, uncheck the box that lets RivaTuner start automatically, restart, and then test the game? After that, the nVidia driver shouldn't be affected by RivaTuner anymore.

You probably misread me...or I misread you initially. Thought from your post that there was a way to not having to restart after a driver crash. I had disabled driver overclocking. The moment the Nvidia driver crashes, Rivatuner ceases having control of the driver so that wasn't the problem. My problem was having the clocks stucked at 2d clocks after the crash...it would not even go back to default barring a restart.
If Rivatuner had control of the driver then maybe I could get default clocks back but no. After a restart everything was back to normal, didn't matter if rivatuner was autostarting or not, overclocked or not.

I remember the older version of rivatuner had a reset button to reset the driver back to all default settings just for that purpose in case the driver crashes. But the current version doesn't.

Anyhow, thanks for trying to help. My card isn't the overclocking beast but at 580/850 fully stable I'm pretty happy.

badblood wrote:

Pocket Aces wrote: Are you sure? Did you disable driver level overclocking, uncheck the box that lets RivaTuner start automatically, restart, and then test the game? After that, the nVidia driver shouldn't be affected by RivaTuner anymore.

You probably misread me...or I misread you initially. Thought from your post that there was a way to not having to restart after a driver crash. I had disabled driver overclocking. The moment the Nvidia driver crashes, Rivatuner ceases having control of the driver so that wasn't the problem. My problem was having the clocks stucked at 2d clocks after the crash...it would not even go back to default barring a restart.
If Rivatuner had control of the driver then maybe I could get default clocks back but no. After a restart everything was back to normal, didn't matter if rivatuner was autostarting or not, overclocked or not.

I remember the older version of rivatuner had a reset button to reset the driver back to all default settings just for that purpose in case the driver crashes. But the current version doesn't.

Anyhow, thanks for trying to help. My card isn't the overclocking beast but at 580/850 fully stable I'm pretty happy.

Yes, it seems we're still having some communications problems

Basically, what I'm saying is: WITHOUT RivaTuner (basically uninstall it), the driver is able to recover fully, with no need to restart.
If the game crashes while RivaTuner is running, then the clock speeds are stuck and you have to restart.
I chose to do away with overclocking entirely, because the performance gains were only noticeable when I use 3DMark. I got pretty tired of having to restart my computer every twenty minutes or so (the games tended to crash more frequently when the card was overclocked).

Also, does anyone find it funny that computers similarly configured to ours, but with the 8600M GT, get much lower 3DMark scores (almost 1000 less, on stock speeds)? Is it the way the ThinkPad is designed, or is there an actual difference in performance between the FX570M and the 8600MGT, despite being the same card?

Pocket Aces wrote: Also, does anyone find it funny that computers similarly configured to ours, but with the 8600M GT, get much lower 3DMark scores (almost 1000 less, on stock speeds)?

Those were probaby the DDR2 variant of 8600M GT (low 3000ish 3dm06). But for the GDDR3 8600M GT they score pretty much the same as the 570M I find.

the specs seem to be the same with both cards but when you compare score you really see the different. i found this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Gra ... 844.0.html

funny thought that my 3dmark score was 4200 something with out OC ing

imnotahippie wrote:the specs seem to be the same with both cards but when you compare score you really see the different. i found this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Gra ... 844.0.html

funny thought that my 3dmark score was 4200 something with out OC ing

I would take notebookcheck with a grain of salt or any review site for that matter. It's good as a general guidline. Different driver revisions can affect scores. I once saw a bump of 250pts just from merely switching one laptopvideo2go driver with another.

Also those results seem to be gathered from several tests with the lowest score at 2700 up to the highest at 4300. That's a rather huge range of scores so I'm a bit skeptical how those scores were obtained. User submission maybe with ddr2 cards included? Again that's not clear from their site.

Furthermore, another thing to keep in mind is processor speeds constitute a significant portion of the score. Looking at the extensive list they have there I doubt they perform all their testing using a standard baseline cpu.

The 3dm06 score for 8600M GT seems a little low by todays standards. Judging by users on NBR it seems to score in the high 3000s to low 4000s using current drivers which is pretty much on par with the 570M.

Whenever I try to use laptopvideo2go drivers, I lose the Fn+F7 hotkeys and when I dim the screen to about 1/15 or 2/15 using Fn+End, the left side of the LCD is much darker than the right side... going all the way down to 0/15 is okay though... is anybody else experiencing this?

I do the whole thing of uninstalling driver, rebooting in safe mode, running driver sweep, rebooting and installing laptopvideo2go drivers.

Thanks in advance!

back when i first was playing with OC i didn't know a hole lot and was about to have the MOBO replace so i didn't really care.

now i always OC my video card. i run it at 635/950 using ati tools 0.27b

and with tpfancontrol v0.21

my fan seep is about 4700 to 5000 rpm's

i have never hit a temp more then 163 F.
and with out OC the video just running normal it goes upto 185 F.

with CounterStrike Source. and any map and 1680X1050 res and everything pushed up i rarely drop below 200FPS. most of the time i'm at 300

right now ive pushed it to 650/1000 and have been running a scan for artifacts for more then 20 minutes now and have not goin over 163 F.

anyways just thought i would let you guys know more about OC'ing the T61p

Estrogen Kid wrote:I managed to get exactly 3999 on 3dmark06 using lenovo's 156.83 drivers and no overclocking, which is higher than what reviewers have scored with stock setups. i'll try again using modded drivers and overclocking later.

EDIT: i scored 5363 on 3dmark06!
drivers: 169.17 modded
core clock: 625MHz
memory clock: 950MHz

owned

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Driver : GeForce 174.71 (Lenovo)
Core : 700 MHz
SP : 1400 MHz
Mem : 1000 MHz

3D Mark 2006 : 5790

ha.

you're using newer drivers, you have a penryn processor, and you OC'ed much more than i did.
if i had a cooling pad for my T61p i might have tried something as crazy as that, but even then i wouldn't want to risk destroying my thinkpad!

good job though. you managed to squeeze out a few more points than i did.
by the way 5363 wasn't my highest, read more and you'll see i got 55xx.

I know well about 3D Mark.
A large part is due to T9300.
I use new 174.71 driver (from Lenovo) but 174 serie is a good one. I also have CL4 memory.
I run Windows XP on the T61P.
I clock the Quadro quiet high.

All this helps... I won't keep such setting. It's just to be sure the laptop work fine.

Old thread, I know, but I just wanted to share my success story. I just got a T61p and overclocked it for the first time. My 3DMark06 score is a whopping 6034 with a core clock of 675 and memory clock of 1000. I believe the memory could go considerably higher, but it does not impact framerates enough to make it worthwhile. It is important to note that I have sanded the heatsink perfectly flat and am using a thin layer of Arctic Silver 5. Temps peak at around 78C with the laptop sitting on a blanket on my lap. On a hard surface temps stay around 73C. Depending on fan speeds, she'll idle in the upper 40s. I also have a Core 2 Duo T8300 and 8GB DDR2 800. This is with unmodified driver version 260.99 on Windows 7 x64.