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T60, Vista using READYBOOST boot up slow? SOLVED WITH RC1!!
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:40 pm
by jlingo
T60 2.0Ghz Dual Core, 2GB RAM, Vista OS, with 4GB Hagiwara Expresscard SSD(readyboost). I found my boot up to be very slow ever since I set my expresscard as readyboost. The hard drive keeps trashing endlessly to about 15min boot up. Is this normal? Isn't readyboost supposed to speed up everything?
Hagiwara Expresscard is well known to possess a decent speed around 20mb/sec for both read and write.
Anyone has this experience?
Boot up without readyboost only 7min, before all harddisk trashing stopped.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:23 pm
by Marin85
Hi,
Most of that annoying after-boot disk thrashing is actually not a part of the bootup itself. It´s caused by searchindexer.exe and the superfetch feature of Vista (both are responsible for the Wow-effect of Vista after they finished their job). You can determine your real bootup time by opening the task-manager after the desktop is shown: ATI CCC and the battery gauge are loaded in the system tray at last after bootup, and shortly after that the amount of utilized system memory drops from 1 GB to 730 MB (approximately); with that the bootup has finished and you should be then able to run whatever apps you want to.
Unfortunately, I don´t have any experience with SSDs, but if you post the bootup time I describe above, that could be usefull to determine what your issues are due to.
From my experience with readyboost I can tell you that it doesn´t help much with enough system memory available (like 2 GB), and honestly, I don´t expect it to be as to booting up since ready boost utilizes fast memory by storing data there (unless you´ve moved some windows boot files there somehow before...).
Cheers
Marin
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:36 pm
by XIII
It is actually a bug in Vista to recache the SuperFetch data again due to loss of encryption key. Microsoft already confirmed this.
This is to be fixed in Vista SP1.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:46 pm
by jlingo
Hagiwara Website claimed that it could do 32Mb/sec Read and 22Mb/sec write.
Today I tested by transferring 4GB video files from my T60 local hardrive to Expresscard, back and forth. and I found the read to be 28Mb/Sec and Write to be 12Mb/Sec.
I thought I would share this information.
Since the superfetch and readyboost seem to be buggy at the moment.
Would I get better performance by setting my expresscard as a pagefile instead of local harddrive? Any better recommendation?
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:43 am
by jlingo
Harddisk Trashing after resume due to Readyboost problem. Fix only released in SP1
http://www.istartedsomething.com/200707 ... boost-bug/
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:04 am
by SHoTTa35
well glad there's a fix, i'm using SP1 refersh so i dont' even remember if i had that problem
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:42 pm
by jlingo
SHoTTa35 wrote:well glad there's a fix, i'm using SP1 refersh so i dont' even remember if i had that problem
Oh, may I know where did you get this refresh? I thought it's not even released until First Quarter 2008?
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:49 pm
by SHoTTa35
refresh is on Microsoft.com at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en
It's thru Windows Update but it works just fine and you can rollback if you want to.
SP1 is gonna be released then, this is the Release Candidate Refresh meant for TESTING so don't use it on your main system
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:04 am
by jlingo
SHoTTa35 wrote:refresh is on Microsoft.com at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en
It's thru Windows Update but it works just fine and you can rollback if you want to.
SP1 is gonna be released then, this is the Release Candidate Refresh meant for TESTING so don't use it on your main system
May be that's why readyboost is very ineffective and slow? My disk trashing close to 10min everytime after waking up from Stand By.
I'm too chicken to try out the RC1
I just need one update to download for readyboost.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:30 pm
by jlingo
Finally installed Vista SP1 RC1 yesterday, I would say very impressive. The performance is definitely superior and READYBOOST actually WORKS!!. No more harddrive trashing from standby mode. Just open up the computer and straight to work! very responsive!
I just couldn't wait any longer for the final release since I already bought expresscard 4GB SSD. I also noticed that the harddisk LED lights up less frequently compared to before. Not sure whether it's due to the readyboost.
Aside from that, when I go into the safe mode and press right click on the mouse, the screen somewhat froze, like crashed, I had to log off and re-login. Is this a common problem?
RC1 installation took about 45min in my case.