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Hi there, im a new guy to the forum . I would like to say hi to all from little Copenhagen Denmark.

I would like to ask, regarding the new hitachi drive which is 500 gb, if they can fit in t61p?

The deal is the drives are not 9.5 mm in height but 12.5 mm in height, that is why im in doubt.
Another option is the ultrabay slim, i dont mind buying that adapter, but will it fit in the ultrabay slim for t61p? Is there space in the ultrabay slim for 12.5 mm in height?

Link to the drive, where there is detailed discription as well.
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0eac4f0a0/

The drives are reported to be out around feb-march.

If they cant fit then there is no point in actually waiting for the drive, i would rather buy a 320 gb samsung, which i know fits.

I hope the wise guys at thinkpads.com forum can help

nach2nach wrote:if they can fit in t61p?

The deal is the drives are not 9.5 mm in height but 12.5 mm in height

There is no way it will fit.

Cheers,

Bill

I'm trying to accomplish the same thing. I've got one of these and just ordered the Slim Ultra Bay SATA enclosure today. I will let you know in a few days if it will fit (maybe without the cover). I don't think you would want to replace the primary drive (7200rpm) of your T61p with a slower one. If all else fails, I will use a 320gig secondary.

-Hue

a 12.5 mm drive will NOT fit in the ultrabay..

period..

sorry to burst your trial baloon, but until you can squeeze 12.5 mm into 9 mm its just not going to happen..

Poof

Thanks Bill.

hueb wrote:Poof

Thanks Bill.

Have you thought about getting two 250GB drives?

Have you thought about getting two 250GB drives?

Thanks. I wanted to keep the primary drive fast, however. The secondary drive's performance was not a huge concern (it is holding database (development not performance) sets, media, etc.). I haven't seen many 250GB primaries at 7K2 yet.

(BTW, I'm not saying that I've done exhaustive performance tests on all 2.5" drives. It's possible there is not much difference between them. We all know it is possible for slower speed drives to keep up with faster ones.)

BillMorrow wrote: sorry to burst your trial baloon, but until you can squeeze 12.5 mm into 9 mm its just not going to happen..

Hmmm. Anyone get any ideas from this sentence?

tylerwylie wrote:

BillMorrow wrote: sorry to burst your trial baloon, but until you can squeeze 12.5 mm into 9 mm its just not going to happen..

Hmmm. Anyone get any ideas from this sentence?

You just have to compress your data

Looks like Samsung has beaten the rest. I had a vendor sample (Hitachi) 12.5mm that was since returned. Bill was correct, the drive would snuggly go into the slot just being slightly taller than the ultra-bay carrier. It was tight and I was concerned about heat. I look forward to pricing on this...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/di ... Drive.html

Nach2Nach...Welcome!

I am running 2 of the 200GB Hitachi 7,200rpm drives, with one in the Ultrabay. If 7,200rpm is not important to you, then you could get two 250GB ones, although if you wait a little, you could run a TB in two 500GB 5,400rpm drives. This Ultrabay HDD bay is SATA with a theoretical 1.5GB/sec. You can hotswap it with another HDD, a DVDRW drive, an Ultrabay battery, etc...This little thing is genius (and not that expensive at all)!

hueb wrote:

Crunch wrote:Have you thought about getting two 250GB drives?

Thanks. I wanted to keep the primary drive fast, however.

I know what you mean. I also refuse to use a 5,400rpm drive as my main drive.

I can tell you that the Hitachi Travelstar drives are excellent. I've owned tons of them, and NONE of them have ever had any problems. Granted, I don't have that much basis for comparison for it vs. other brands, but one Seagate I had at one point was way louder than the barely audible Hitachi drives.

If you want to go all out, why not get a 64GB solid state HD, and then hot-swap between two 500GB drives in the Ultrabay.

Edit: I just found this baby. It can be set up for Windows, too, and is available in a 1TB version as well. Maybe this thing is for you?

Crunch wrote:snip....Edit: I just found this baby. It can be set up for Windows, too....snip

Time Capsule is not fully compatible with Windows Vista due to Microsoft's newly added security features:

Walter S. Mossberg wrote:In my tests, the built-in backup program in Windows XP Pro worked fine with Time Capsule. But the built-in backup program in Vista failed. Microsoft said the problem I encountered was due to a new Vista security feature for backups that foils some remote hard disks, not just Apple’s.

Also, Time Capsule comes in a capsule with a standard size of 3.5'' and I don't think you can use it as a primary drive in the Ultrabay; which was the main topic this thread.

By the way, Apple mostly targets it's products for Macintosh and there are already many good options of network HDDs for Windows users.

Yea, I know about the 3.5", and wasn't trying to suggest to put in the Ultrabay. lol...And yes, I am fully cognizant who Apple targets with their products. I thought it was a cool device, that's all.

Is USB an option? For security reasons, I keep all of my large datasets on 2.5" USB drives (so they are locked up when I don't need them). There is a performance hit - but in my case, the performance is adequate. I can drop the ones I need in my bag when I need them out of the office.


This raises an interesting question. Can you use an esata card?
http://www.satacard.com/pc113.html

I don't know if you can get a 12.5mm Esata enclosure.

well guess you don't have tow orry about this anymore...

Samsung now ships one in 9.5mm height at 500GB SATA2!!

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=58778

A smaller capacity 7200rpm drive can be slower than a larger capacity 5400rpm drive.

See the charts here http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage25.html

Platter spin speed and data density both affect drive performance. Ideally you would want a 7200rpm 200Gb+ unit...

I posted another message on another Thinkpads forum regarding the ACTUAL release and shipping of the 500GB 5400RPM Samsung 2.5" 9.5mm drive that will definitely fit the T61p.

You can find that message here:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=