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newer bios on my t61p than is officially released

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:08 am
by thomas565
got a new t61p (T9300, wuxga, 1gb, ordered with vista bus 64) for my bro a month ago, mid march, and strangely, it had a bios version of 2.12, which has not been posted on their support pages since then. the newest posted bios version is 2.10.

am I lenovo's guinea pig, once again?

anyone else having this?

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-68451
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 67988.html
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67853

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:17 pm
by sktn77a
Hey, we're all Microsoft's guinea pigs, so WTF!

:wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:36 pm
by metro_88
Just wanted to let you know that I just got a system board replacement from Lenovo for my T61 and I have 2.12 as well. I noticed it's not on the site yet as well.

Re: newer bios on my t61p than is officially released

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:56 am
by SneakyViper
toby909 wrote:got a new t61p (T9300, wuxga, 1gb, ordered with vista bus 64) for my bro a month ago, mid march, and strangely, it had a bios version of 2.12, which has not been posted on their support pages since then. the newest posted bios version is 2.10.

am I lenovo's guinea pig, once again?

anyone else having this?

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-68451
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 67988.html
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67853
I would like to have the 2.12 version for testing :D I have a 2.10 version right now, but I bought a T9300 for my T61p. It doesn't work properly though, I'm getting a "thermal sensing error" everytime I boot.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:18 pm
by AlexanderT
V2.14-1.08 (7LETB4WW/7KHT24WW) is the latest. But it's only available to Japanese customers.

Well... or you can find the Flash Upgrade here:

http://www-06.ibm.com/jp/domino05/pc/do ... MIGR-67988 (exe)

http://www-06.ibm.com/jp/domino05/pc/do ... MIGR-67989 (iso)

It includes an updated Intel micro code, Intel AMT 2.6, SSD (Solid State Drive) support, and various fixes.

Have I upgraded myself yet? Nope. Cheers.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:52 pm
by icantux
Received my machine with 2.12 BIOS - no complaints here. Running smoothly. I tend not to upgrade the BIOS anyways, unless there's some earth-shattering changes in a newer version.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:22 am
by pae77
Install that bios and your bios configuration will probably be in Japanese!

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:22 pm
by AlexanderT
Well, in that case, get the US version, which is 100% identical with the Japanese btw. (link hasn't been posted @ Lenovo yet):

http://download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/p ... uj15us.exe
http://download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/p ... uj15us.txt
<2.14-1.08>
BIOS: 2.14 / ECP: 1.08
- (New) Microcode updates of the processors.
- (New) Intel Memory Reference Code update.
- (New) Update of Intel AMT 2.6 Management Engine Region Firmware
(the models with Intel AMT 2.6 feature only).
- (New) Support for initialization command of SSD (Solid State Drive).
- (Fix) Boot error occurs at Intel ICH8M SATA initialization.
- (Fix) The error code 2100 (Hard disk drive 0 initialization error)
is displayed only occasionally after "Setup Default" is done
in BIOS Setup Utility.
- (Fix) The boot sequence is different from the expected one in case
of Wake on LAN(WOL).
- (Fix) Data of memory may get garbled during system boot or resume
from standby/hibernation mode/power-off (the models with
Intel AMT 2.6 feature only).
Cheers,
Alex

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:24 pm
by AlexanderT

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:03 pm
by SneakyViper
AlexanderT wrote:Snipped
Thanks for helping.

:( It doesn't solve my "thermal sensing error" problem though. I was thinking a new BIOS would maybe solve this problem, but there really is a hardware difference between the 'old' and new T61p system boards?

thermal sensor error on upgrading t61P to penryn

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:05 pm
by akim
hi SneakyViper,

May I ask you when you got your T61P.

The reason I am asking is because I had a planar card replacement on late december and I am wondering if upgrading processor as in my signature to T9300 would work as for this thermal sensor error.

Re: thermal sensor error on upgrading t61P to penryn

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:18 pm
by SneakyViper
akim wrote:hi SneakyViper,

May I ask you when you got your T61P.

The reason I am asking is because I had a planar card replacement on late december and I am wondering if upgrading processor as in my signature to T9300 would work as for this thermal sensor error.
Early october, it was one of the first cheaper T61p models.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:27 pm
by SLoweCSL
By the way, you might want to check out this page in case it affects you...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 69703.html

"The ThinkPad BIOS updates have been temporarily removed from the web. Lenovo is investigating reports of problems associated with the BIOS installation process. Updated versions will be made available as quickly as possible which correct these problems. Users already at the level described in this tip do not need to revert to a prior level. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:03 am
by AlexanderT
Interesting. This explains why the page gave me 404 errors yesterday. :wink:

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:43 pm
by thomas565
noticed that, too 2 days ago.

man, they are so screwy. my first t61p came with an old bios in dec 07, and first thing i had to do was to update it. its their job to put on the right and working bios, and not letting the new user perform that somewhat risky task of flashing the bios. further, some users need a flawless machine for critical calculations.

from that page linked above:
"it is highly recommended that all users update their system with this new BIOS."
I send in my laptop, let them do it! its their job. better: they even can keep the trashy machine. I want a refund.


some old posts
http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/mess ... d=411#M411
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... &start=300

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:57 pm
by SneakyViper
SLoweCSL wrote:By the way, you might want to check out this page in case it affects you...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 69703.html

"The ThinkPad BIOS updates have been temporarily removed from the web. Lenovo is investigating reports of problems associated with the BIOS installation process. Updated versions will be made available as quickly as possible which correct these problems. Users already at the level described in this tip do not need to revert to a prior level. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."
Hm... So there still might be some hope for me too ;) I'm still using my T9300 in a pre-penryn T61p with the "thermal sensing error" at boot, but just 1 other problem: the heat of the T9300. When fully loaded on 2 cores (video encoding for example) it can easily reach 80-85 degrees...