My T61 Review (with comparison to HP dv6000)

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My T61 Review (with comparison to HP dv6000)

#1 Post by ethant » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:41 am

I have been enjoying my new ThinkPad T61 for almost a week now, and I wanted to post a brief review and comparison to my previous notebook, an HP dv6000. First off, shipping ending up being very fast although there is a disappointing inconsistency in the information coming from Lenovo.

Ordered: 5/28
Shipped: ?
Arrived: 6/6

My estimated ship date after placing my order was 6/18. I never received a ship notification e-mail and the order status website still says that my order is “in-progress” with an estimated ship date of 6/18. I also called a few times before my ThinkPad arrived to check the order and I was also told each time that it would ship around the 18th. Since I have my notebook and all is well I am not too bothered by this, but it seems like shipping and order status information is an area where Lenovo could improve (other threads would appear to reinforce this). Now, onto the system.

I configured a T61 with the following specifications:

Intel Core2Duo T8100 2.1 GHz
2 GB RAM
160 GB 7200 RPM hard drive
15.4 inch WSXGA+ screen
Intel integrated graphics (X3100)
Intel wireless
DVD recorder
6 cell battery
Windows Vista Business
2 year warranty with depot pickup and return plus ThinkPad protection

First let me say that after working with the machine pretty regularly for the past week I am very impressed and pleased with my purchase. The notebook is a pleasure to work on, and I found myself using it more then my desktop at work (which was never the case with my HP). There are a few small issues which I will detail below, but overall I extremely happy with my first ThinkPad and feel it is a definite and noticeable step-up from the HP.

Build /overall quality – the machine of course feels very solid and I can see no gaps, unevenness or other build related problems. The plastic right above the keyboard flexes a bit when pressed, as does the plastic on the left palm rest area. I would prefer that it didn’t do this, but it doesn’t bother me a not. The T61 feels a bit larger then the HP despite having the same screen dimensions.

The overall feel of the machine when picked up is solid, although I have to admit I was expecting more of a difference from my HP. Although many have reported build quality issues with the dv6000, mine is a pretty solid machine for a consumer level notebook and I think the feel of the ThinkPad and the HP are pretty close (although I know that the roll cage makes the ThinkPad actually much stronger). One nice thing is that I no longer have to worry about the ugly fingerprints that were a constant problem on the glossy HP.

The keyboard on the ThinkPad is extremely easy to type on, and as expected a step up from the HP. The touchpad, although a bit smaller, also seems much more responsive and is easier to use with its textured overlay (as opposed to the glossy overlay used on the HP).

One small problem is that my DVD burner dosen’t eject consistently. Sometimes it will open just fine, and sometimes it will try to open but appears to get stuck. I have to push on the Ultrabay release tab when this happens which causes the drive to pop open. Not a huge deal, but I might send the drive in down the line which is an easy task thanks to the Ultrabay design.

Screen – I find the WSXGA+ screen fantastic. The increased resolution is a joy to work on, and Photoshop and graphics tasks are so much easier (it was basically impossible to do any Adobe suite work on the HP, simply because there was not enough room on the screen to work effectively). I am not sure who my screen maker is, but I am guessing Samsung. If I look for them I can see the horizontal lines that some have reported. I can see this being an issue for some, but they don’t bother me personally and I generally don’t notice them. The screen is very sharp. I have not noticed any dead pixels (although I have not specifically looked for them either).

My HP had an AUO screen which I believe is regarded as one of the better screens for HPs. I would say that it is a bit brighter then the ThinkPad screen and has a slightly wider viewing angle. Its too bad that the ThinkPad screen can’t match the HP in these categories, but for me the increased resolution more then outweighs these other advantages and I am perfectly satisfied with the screen on my T61.

Noise – My number one complaint with my dv6000, and perhaps the main reason I decided to replace it, was fan noise. The HP would start throttling up its loud “hair dryer” almost immediately, even with the system idle. After 30 minutes or so of use the load fan would just run consistently. This was a problem with the system almost immediately after purchase, so I don’t believe its related to dust build-up. I tried various things to adjust this noisy fan but nothing seemed to work and it was driving me crazy.

The T61 is blissfully silent. You can hear a fan running, although it is extremely quiet. In a very quiet room I can tell when it throttles up to a higher speed, but the change is so minor that you would never notice unless it was perfectly silent and you were specifically listening for it. I have read a few complaints about hard drive noise with the 7200 RPM drives, so I was a bit worried about that. Fortunately, my drive is totally silent. Even in a quiet room I can’t hear it unless I put my ear to the palm rest.

Performance – The machine feels very fast and responsive. It is speced similar to my desktop machine, but the ThinkPad feels much snappier (might be just from a fresh Windows install). The wireless connects very quickly and performs well.

I removed Norton but I am keeping the Thinkvantage apps for now. Compared to the bloatware installed by other companies, I actually think most of these apps will be useful to me, and seem to do their job well (your needs my vary of course).

Besides the DVD writer problem, the only other issue I have is again related to communication from Lenovo. I upgraded to a 2 your warranty with accidental damage protection. In the box there was no information about this warranty, and if I go to Lenovo’s warranty status website and plug in my serial number it reports only the standard one year warranty. I don’t know if this is because Lenovo’s system still doesn’t think my machine has shipped or what. I will probably call them in the next day or so to inquire about it.

Wow, that ended up being much longer then expected, but hopefully this information will be useful to some. Just to reiterate, I am very very happy with my ThinkPad and I look forward to putting it to regular use for several years. I would strongly recommend the T61, especially with the current pricing that is available.

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#2 Post by mybellyisempty » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:52 am

I had the same issue with my T61P. I bought a 3 year accidental, but it only showed up as a year.

After a couple weeks it was updated. I'm not sure if they just enable it after your return period is up or what....I wouldn't worry about that at this time.

I used to be a Firedog Technician at Circuit City, worked with DV6000s all the time, and I can back you up on the glossy touchpad being a lot less sensitive. I hate the touchpad on my DV9000.
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