T60p CPU Upgrade , i need help

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derprof · #1 Post by **derprof** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:03 am

hi guys,

i have a t60p revision 3 bios version 2.22.
My cpu is a t2700.
But i need a 64-bit support. Is it possible to change to nen t7700?
A friend of mine, sells the t7700 very cheap.
On eBay.de i find a t7200 and a 7400, but the item location is hong kong.
Should i change the cpu cooler against e kew one?
yesterday i changed the thermal conductance paste. After this my t2700 is very cold. Do you think it advisable for me to change the thermal conductance pad at mit fire gl card?
Here are the cpu :
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... %3DBidding

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... :IT&ih=005
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... :IT&ih=007
http://cgi.ebay.de/Intel-Core2Duo-mobil ... dZViewItem

THx alot
Best regards
martin

derprof · #2 Post by **derprof** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:11 am

please help me.
my modell is a 2007-8du 14''

#3 Post by **Harryc** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:24 am

I don't see any reason why it would not work... technically. The problem will BIOS support, because I do not believe a T60 ever came with a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo CPU. Someone who has done this swap will have to verify.

msb0b · #4 Post by **msb0b** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:29 am

T60 will not be able to use T7700. T60 is socket M and T7700 processor is socket P. While the pin count is the same, the pin arrangement is different. T7200, T7400 and T7600 are socket M processors.

You also need a version 3 system board to use 64 bit processor. Sounds like you have that in the OP.

If your goal is to use > 3GB of RAM, don't bother. T60 can only address 3GB maximum, see the sticky in this forum. If your need is to perform 64-bit calculations, then you will be fine.

#5 Post by **RonS** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:23 pm

I think you want to get a T7600 chip.

derprof · #6 Post by **derprof** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:36 pm

thx guys, so i have to buy a t7200, t7400 or t7600.
is a T7400

sSpec Number:SL9SK
CPU Speed:2.16 GHz
PCG:
Bus Speed:667 MHz
Bus/Core Ratio:13
L2 Cache Size:4mb
L2 Cache Speed:

Package Type:Micro-FCBGA
Manufacturing Technology:65 nm
Core Stepping:B2
CPUID String:0X6F6
Thermal Design Power:34W
Thermal Specification:100°C
VID Voltage Range:1.0375 - 1.30V

the right one?

Peak2Peak · #7 Post by **Peak2Peak** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:26 pm

Unfortunately Package Type:Micro-FCBGA (Flip Chip BALL Grid Array) SL9SK is not supported in the T60/p - You need Package Type:Micro-FCPGA (Flip Chip PIN Grid Array) SL9SE. -

derprof · #8 Post by **derprof** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:37 pm

oh [censored], please tell me which cpu i can buy in detail.

Peak2Peak · #9 Post by **Peak2Peak** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:20 pm

T7200 - sSpec Number SL9SF (Click for eBay example)
T7400 - sSpec Number SL9SE (Click for eBay example)
T7600 - sSpec Number SL9SD (Click for eBay example)

derprof · #10 Post by **derprof** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:32 pm

okay thx , very expensive.
do you think the cpu will be cheaper in future.
is it right that a t7200 should be as fast as my t7200, isn´t it.
i haven´t the 64 bit support. so i should by a t7600 or a 7400 to have a speedadvantage.
on eBay germanyyou can find only a few cpu´s. so i have to do an initial purchase , which is ver expensive. what dou you think about an external purchase?

Peak2Peak · #11 Post by **Peak2Peak** » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:13 pm

Prices in the UK have quite stable for these CPU's and yes expensive (in my opinion) - Have a look at this thread: Core 2 Duo Upgrade - You may find some useful info.

derprof · #12 Post by **derprof** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:48 am

is it possible to kill my motherboard or somthing else?
should i buy a new cooler?
my bios and my board are right. so it should works fine ,or?

crazyfrog · #13 Post by **crazyfrog** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:51 am

derprof wrote:okay thx , very expensive.
do you think the cpu will be cheaper in future.
is it right that a t7200 should be as fast as my t2700, isn´t it.

Actually T7200 (2.0GHz) is slower than T2700 (2.33Ghz). You have to get a T7400 or T7600 to beat T2700 in speed.
BTW, be careful about purchasing on ebay. There are some dishonest sellers selling industrial samples to make good money.

derprof · #14 Post by **derprof** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:16 pm

okay thx for this advice. well on ebay i found a seller in hong kong.
have somebody of you brought a cpu of these kind of sellers?
here is a link http://cgi.ebay.de/Intel-Mobile-Core2-D ... .m20.l1116

skygodtj · #15 Post by **skygodtj** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:11 am

I've got a T2400 (1.83ghz) cpu in my T60 (2008-CM5, WinXPPro) and started loooking for a speedier processor also. With 2GB ram and 7200rpm drive I've just abt gone as far as I can go speed enhancement-wise..

Derprof's got a T2700 cpu in his, data says its a 2ghz, 2M cache 478pin MicroPGA chip.. CrazyFrog says that any of the 7200, 7400 or 7600 chips will work but data I find says they are 4MB cache but 479-pin chips... are these indeed different sockets? Which is the correct cpu to choose then?

I find lots of T2500 & 2600 (but no 2700) processors.. but the choice btwn 2mb and 4mb cache is an easy one, if I can find the proper T7x00 chip..

TJ

Brad · #16 Post by **Brad** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:18 pm

I have a T7600 in a couple of T60p's and they are working nicely. The CPU packaging is the same for the T2500 and the T7600.

Brad

sarbin · #17 Post by **sarbin** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:21 pm

Brad wrote:I have a T7600 in a couple of T60p's...

yer killin' me!

awolfe63 · #18 Post by **awolfe63** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:45 pm

The fastest mobile CPU in a particular generation always remains expensive. Even today, Pentium M 765 and 780 are quite expensive compared to the next slower models. I would not expect T7600 or T7700 prices to come down much.

skygodtj · #19 Post by **skygodtj** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:10 pm

Mines just a T60, not a p and th question is T2x00 say 478pin PGA, as does a 7200... T7400-7600 say 479pin.. which is the proper chip to put in?

awolfe63 · #20 Post by **awolfe63** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:22 pm

T60 and T60p take the same CPUs.

skygodtj · #21 Post by **skygodtj** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:39 pm

ok so the 478-479 pin thing is just an typo/error? Prety much anything T2x00-to T7600 MicroPGA would shoe-horn in?

awolfe63 · #22 Post by **awolfe63** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:43 pm

Micro FCPGA or μFCPGA-478 - not micro-BGA.

crazyfrog · #23 Post by **crazyfrog** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:12 pm

skygodtj wrote:Mines just a T60, not a p and th question is T2x00 say 478pin PGA, as does a 7200... T7400-7600 say 479pin.. which is the proper chip to put in?

I believe you are confused by the CPU interface.

First of all, let's list the models of processor that can be used in both T60 and T60p:

Core Duo: T2400 T2500 T2600 T2700
Core 2 Duo: T5600 T7200 T7400 T7600

The top model that can be used in T60 series is T7600 (2.33GHz). There are a few others, but they are less popular and less powerful. So I am not going to list them here.

Now let's talk about CPU interface. Intel designed two CPU interfaces for all of the upper processors: Micro-FCBGA and Micro-FCPGA.

Micro-FCBGA, i.e. Flip Chip Ball Grid Array, is Intel's BGA mounting method for mobile processors. It has 479 ball pin contacts.

Micro-FCPGA, i.e. Flip-chip pin grid array, also called Socket M, has 478 pin contacts!

All T60/T60p use Core Duo/Core 2 Duo with Micro-FCPGA interface. So when we are talking about T7600 for T60/T60p, we refer to T7600 with Micro-FCPGA.

There are of course T7200, T7400, T7600 etc. which come with Micro-FCBGA interface. If you get a processor with Micro-FCBGA interface, you are throwing money down the drain.

Finally, don't think of T7100 T7300 T7500 T7700 T8100 T8300 etc. These are Socket P processor for T61/T61p.

skygodtj · #24 Post by **skygodtj** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:06 pm

Thanks CF... 'knew I needed the -PGA chip... between the 500 more mhz speed and extra 2MB cache of a 7600, 'should make this -60 hyperventilate, or at least breathe easier crunching video..

derprof · #25 Post by **derprof** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:11 pm

hi guys,
thanks a lot for your help,
my last question is, is there realy no risk to kill me board during the cpu exchange?
should i buy the core2duo fan and change it against my core duo fan?
my t60p is out of warranty, it is an american / canidian vesion a 2007-8du is it possible to buy a warranty upgrade?

dr_st · #26 Post by **dr_st** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:39 pm

derprof wrote:should i buy the core2duo fan and change it against my core duo fan?

Are the fans different at all?

derprof wrote:my t60p is out of warranty, it is an american / canidian vesion a 2007-8du is it possible to buy a warranty upgrade?

If it is out of warranty - you cannot.

awolfe63 · #27 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:17 pm

derprof wrote:hi guys,
thanks a lot for your help,
my last question is, is there realy no risk to kill me board during the cpu exchange?
should i buy the core2duo fan and change it against my core duo fan?
my t60p is out of warranty, it is an american / canidian vesion a 2007-8du is it possible to buy a warranty upgrade?

There is always a risk of damage when you take apart a machine. If you follow the directions, a Thinkpad CPU upgrade is not much more complicated than a desktop CPU upgrade. If you have never upgraded a CPU or you cannot afford the risk of killing your machine - take it to a professional.

derprof · #28 Post by **derprof** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:33 am

my problem isn´t the exchange of the cpu, i think about killing my board with the t7600, because my board wasn´t produced for the cpu.

Brad · #29 Post by **Brad** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:35 am

There is not a problem with compatibility with your board and the T7600. Your board will run perfectly with the T7600.

Brad

derprof · #30 Post by **derprof** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:26 am

okay thx, whats up with the fan should a change it?

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