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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:52 am
by basketb
Harryc wrote:...
Now, with that said, I do have a 40GB 5400rpm hard drive left over from the previous build, and also a 10GB hard drive, both donated. So, we may be able to pull this off with a sale of those, but we need this refund from superior reball.
Not sure what you intend to do with the A31p donor machine but selling its LCD should bring in some money, no?
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:26 am
by Harryc
The donor machine is for sale, but the original donor is going to get the proceeds from the sale. That is the only fair way to do this since we didn't actually use it for a project build.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:31 am
by Harryc
Continuing on with getting Vista on the T61 project machine. I did some research on this machine. The EBay auction stated that the machine type is 7659-1QU. The machine we actually received is 7659-1LU. The later takes Win Vista Business 64bit as part of it's standard config, the prior runs Win Vista Business 32bit. So, in order to stay true to the config we'd need Win Vista Business 64bit recovery media. I am not sure how R&R works at that level. Can we use either successfully or only what is on the COA?
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:46 am
by mgo
Harryc wrote:Continuing on with getting Vista on the T61 project machine. I did some research on this machine. The EBay auction stated that the machine type is 7659-1QU. The machine we actually received is 7659-1LU. The later takes Win Vista Business 64bit as part of it's standard config, the prior runs Win Vista Business 32bit. So, in order to stay true to the config we'd need Win Vista Business 64bit recovery media. I am not sure how R&R works at that level. Can we use either successfully or only what is on the COA?
If anybody is a Tech Net subscriber, perhaps they could provide a 64 bit biz DVD. I think that would be legal as long as the OS was offered no charge. I might be mistaken. My 64 bit T60 works well with all of my apps. (I don't use anything exotic - Just Office 2007 I a couple other things)
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:57 am
by Harryc
mgo, good idea. If anyone out there is a Technet subscriber or who can send/lend/borrow a set of Win Vista Bus., 64bit RR discs for a T61...we need a set please. I will mention your member ID (or name if you prefer) with the utmost respect & admiration in this thread
.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:48 am
by carbon_unit
Does the COA sticker specify 32 or 64bit?
I can probably find a 32bit set for an R61 if it is close enough to work. I'll have to check my stash of R&R disc sets at work.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:03 am
by Harryc
carbon_unit, good question. I can't make out the top part of the COA sticker because it is worn. The COA # is perfectly legible though. If the Lenovo support site were up, I could check history. Its a 7659-1LU.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:38 am
by richk
I used 64-bit for a short time. Many "normal" things don't work right. Windows update failed with 4GB of memory. Many little applications I use just didn't work. I only suggest it for people who absolutely need it to get more than 4GB memory for things like huge pictures with photoshop or video editing.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:10 pm
by Harryc
richk, for the purposes of this project, I absolutely have no preference for a 64Bit Vista install. My earlier statement about staying true to the config was simply leading to this. If the COA on the bottom of the machine is for Vista Business 64bit, would a Vista 32bit R&R disc set recover the machine, and if it did, is that action against any Microsoft Software License terms? For the purposes of general sale, I would agree with the argument that a 32bit OS might sell better. I can't comment about Vista 64bit operation issues because I have never run it.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:33 pm
by Harryc
Well, the Lenovo support site finially came back up. I did a waranty/parts lookup and it does not mention the OS. The machine type/model description says;
Product: ThinkPad T61 7659-1LU [change]
Operating system: Windows Vista [change]
Original description: T7100(1.8GHz), 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400rpm HD, 14.1in 1280x800, Intel X3100, CDRW/DVD, Intel 802.11abg wireless, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, 4c Li-Ion, WinVista Business
What made me believe it was a Vista Business 64bit model is this;
http://www.superwarehouse.com/Lenovo_Th ... /p/1504114
... and this
http://shopper.cnet.com/notebooks/lenov ... iew#info-1
Thoughts? I will also ask a Lenovo Rep to do a lookup.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:56 pm
by underclocker
Harry, if you do a "warranty status", then a "parts lookup" at lenovo.com, you'll probably see the Vista type, my T61 shows;
VISTA BUSINESS 32 BIT ALL WW:LABELS
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:34 pm
by Harryc
underclocker, it shows the below;
LABELS; MS WINDOWS VISTA PREMIUM LOGO:LA
So, that would contradict what is listed when you look-up the machine type/serial;
Original description: T7100(1.8GHz), 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400rpm HD, 14.1in 1280x800, Intel X3100, CDRW/DVD, Intel 802.11abg wireless, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, 4c Li-Ion,
WinVista Business
The sticker on the palm rest just says 'Windows Vista'.
Code: Select all
Mfg part # FRU part # Description Serviceable?
28L3133 12R7469 LABEL:LABELS YES
39T0494 0000000 ADONIS MDC-1.5 ADAPTER:WIRELESS COMBO AD NO
39T2733 39T2685 24/24/8/24X CD-RW/DVD COMBO II DRIVE FRU YES
39T7209 0000000 TOUCHPAD PLATE:PADS NO
41R0593 40Y8402 512MBPC25300NP FRU YES
41R0593 40Y8402 512MBPC25300NP FRU YES
41U5400 42W7654 MICROASSEMBLIES; FRU CPU ASM INTEL CORE YES
41V9757 41V9756 RUBBER SHEET FRU YES
41W4528 0000000 HDD BRACKET:BRACKETS/STIFFENERS NO
42T0340 42T0341 14.1 INCH LCD DISPLAY FRU YES
42T0852 0000000 GOLAN WLAN ADAPTER CARD:802.11 ADAPTERS NO
42T1003 0000000 80GB HARD DRIVE, SEAGATE, M5400.3S-80, 5 NO
42T1304 42T1305 80GB HARD DRIVE ASSEMBLY FRU, SEAGATE YES
42T3241 42T3273 KEYBOARD FRU YES
42T5008 0000000 LINE CORD:LINE CORDS NO
42T5226 42T4667 PANASONIC 4 CELL BATTERY FRU YES
42V9501 0000000 BOMS, NOT SHIPPABLE ACROSS BORDERS; MICR NO
42V9635 0000000 BOMS, NOT SHIPPABLE ACROSS BORDERS; 14.1 NO
42W2427 0000000 LABELS; FCC LABEL FOR WLAN:LABELS NO
42W2739 0000000 LABELS; MS WINDOWS VISTA PREMIUM LOGO:LA NO
42W2794 0000000 LABELS; PRODUCT LABEL 7659 CTO:LABELS NO
42W2973 0000000 LABELS; HOMOLOGATION LABEL (NA/LA/AP) LI NO
42W3782 41W1487 PLANAR ASSEMBLY FRU YES
42W3824 0000000 SCREWS, METRIC; SECURITY SCREW:SCREWS, M NO
42W9386 0000000 MALIBU-1 MALIBU-1 MS PLANAR ELABW (INTEG NO
42W9760 0000000 T61(MALIBU1):PUBLICATIONS MISC NO
42Y6651 87H4776 RECOVERY DVD KIT NO
91P8421 44M4361 TRACKPOINT CAP KIT:MECHANICAL ASSEMBLIES NO
92P1160 92P1159 LITEON 65W 2PRONG MODEL YES
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:04 pm
by Brad
A search for the DVD recovery set 87H4776 listed in your parts lookup reveals Windows Vista Business 32bit
here.
Brad
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:28 pm
by Harryc
Brad, that was a stroke of genious, thanks!. So if anyone (carbon_unit ?) has a Vista Business 32 bit R&R set and you are willing to send a copy, please let me know.
Update - I opened a repair ticket with Lenovo for the keyboard.
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:29 pm
by carbon_unit
I'll look when I get to work tomorrow. I know I have R61 Vista Ultimate 32bit (it belongs to the machine I am typing on) and I am pretty sure I have R61 Vista Business 32bit.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:54 pm
by Harryc
Project Fund Update -
We did receive a refund from Superior Reball today in the amount of $33.
Carry-over balance $29.12
Payment from SR $33.00
Current Balance $61.12
Since it is fairly apparent at this point that we will not be receiving a donated or substantially price reduced LCD offer, I will purchase an LCD using the current balance $63.12 and the rest of the LCD cost will be out of my pocket. I will report the total amount here, and upon sale of the laptop I will recoup my personal expenditure. Hopefully that plan meets with approval from the membership. I would flat out donate the money under normal circumstances, but I have already donated well over $100 into these projects.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:24 pm
by usernotabuser
I feel like the Puerto Rico Representative to the US Congress (able to speak, but with no vote/power).
In that capacity, Harryc: you have my go ahead to proceed as you stated.
On a lighter note, I'm running Vista Ultimate SP1, 64bit.. My 4 GB of RAM and I have seen no problems whatsoever. Just saw some mention of this above and thought I'd chime in.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:24 pm
by Harryc
Cut and paste this search into EBay -
(42T0339,42T0341,42T0425,13N7102,42T0410)
As you can see, the lowest priced LCD is now $131 shipped. That is $33 higher than a couple of days ago...perhaps we'll wait for a better deal, unless someone has a source?
Edit: Disregard - I found one -
LCD on EBay
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:37 pm
by Harryc
usernotabuser, thanks.
Done, we've now purchased this LCD -
LCD on EBay
They do standard flat rate shipping, so now we wait. Current project fund accounting looks like this -
Carry-over balance $29.12
Payment from SR $33.00
Old Balance $61.12
LCD Purchase $ 97.98
Current Balance - $36.86 (Negative)
Amount owed to Harryc on sale of laptop - $36.86
Amount invested to date on T61 Project -
Laptop $263.78
Battery/AC Adapter $25.00
LCD $97.98
Total $ 386.76
As far as investment in the project, I think that is an outstanding value, and we're basicallly done as far as getting needed parts etc. So, we've accomplished getting a T61 with 2 years warranty for under $400. I still have yet to post pics. I will make it a point to do that tonight.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:09 pm
by syedj
Harry, do you have another T61(p) or even T60(p) hanging around? If so, can you try using the Vista Business 32b R&R DVDs in that machine with the hard drive from the project T61? I have use this method before and it works just as good. This way at least you can get the R&R partition on the project hard drive. Then run R&R after putting back the hard drive in the project T61.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:56 pm
by Harryc
Syed, thanks . I do not have any T6X machines. Well there's my work T60, but if I hose that machine I am in a world of hurt
.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:25 pm
by Harryc
LCD Tech must have changed shipping policies at some point. The LCD is already enroute via 2 day FEDEX. It will be here on Wednesday from Texas. Now THAT is what I call service. Coincidentally, the keyboard will be here the same day.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:58 pm
by underclocker
It's coming together nicely! Please post a picture link when you get a chance. It'd be good to see the before and after (LCD swap).
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:31 pm
by Harryc
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:53 pm
by rkawakami
Harryc wrote:Anyone have any ideas on how to remove the rest of the sticker residue on the lid?
What I use, in increasing amounts of "toxicity":
- clear Scotch tape, pressed onto the sticky parts and then pulled straight up. Repeat as fast you can, moving the clear tape to unused sections when the tape loses tackiness.
- Windex
- Isopropyl alcohol
- Goo Gone
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:54 pm
by ajkula66
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser (extra strength) did wonders (with patience and warm water) on the lid of my T43...
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:59 pm
by Harryc
Ray, the first (3) items have already been used to remove most of it, the remaining residue is tough. I do have a can of Goo Gone. That stuff is nasty
. Do you think it would discolor the lid? George, Mr. Clean Magic eraser was the first thing I used. I didn't try the extra strength though.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:03 pm
by rkawakami
Haven't had to resort to the Goo Gone yet so I don't know how/if it will attack the lid. Try some along the back edge and see if it starts eating the plastic
.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:05 pm
by Harryc
Yeah, Ray that stuff would eat rust off of nails. I think it would be a last resort. I will try to locate an extra strength MC Magic eraser first.
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:14 pm
by carbon_unit
Have you tried WD-40 yet?
