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t's @1440x900 not @1680x1050. I am not sure exactly what grainy is. It just looks like the screen is "frosty". You know how you have shower doors and they could be frosted so you can't look through. That's was it sort of looks like but mostly noticeable on white colors. I am not sure if this is normal because the colors are VERY sharp and the backlight is very strong. I can see font VERY clearly, what is cleartype and should I enable it? Maybe I am worrying to much.

It just looks a bit frosty, but other then that fonts are VERY readable, colors are sharp, backlight is strong, great viewing angles. Sort of like a fuzzy look.

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Hi,
Hmm, the frosty thing is due to the coating material they used probably not being too well-suited for higher pixel densities. A lot of user were complaining about several batches of LG philips flexview lcds and sparkling issues, which became near headache inducing.
I have heard that these are the products that are most oftenly used:
http://www.nitto.com/product/datasheet/ ... index.html

Those that aren't "super fine" would create interference with the pixels, if they are small enough.
Cleartype is "antialiasing" applied to fonts - it softens the curvatures of fonts, so that it is a bit more bold, and more clear to read.

Troels wrote:Hi,
Hmm, the frosty thing is due to the coating material they used probably not being too well-suited for higher pixel densities. A lot of user were complaining about several batches of LG philips flexview lcds and sparkling issues, which became near headache inducing.
I have heard that these are the products that are most oftenly used:
http://www.nitto.com/product/datasheet/ ... index.html

Those that aren't "super fine" would create interference with the pixels, if they are small enough.
Cleartype is "antialiasing" applied to fonts - it softens the curvatures of fonts, so that it is a bit more bold, and more clear to read.

So what should I do? Exchange the display for the same display again or will it end up being the same thing? It is a HUGE hassle for me to change displays again.

Other then the frost, the colors are sharp, viewing angles great, and very bright.

Hmm, good question.
Do you remember what the LG philips model number of this lcd is?
I'm imagining it won't help to exchange it, you'd most likely get the same, especially if it's from the same seller probably selling from one batch of lcds.
You could probably get it re-polarized.. but it will probably be very expensive.
I don't know... either live with it you might get used to it (?) or return it and keep the Samsung. Sometimes LG philips might have more versions than the one you bought that have different coatings, but it's not necessarily compatible.

Troels wrote:Hmm, good question.
Do you remember what the LG philips model number of this lcd is?
I'm imagining it won't help to exchange it, you'd most likely get the same, especially if it's from the same seller probably selling from one batch of lcds.
You could probably get it re-polarized.. but it will probably be very expensive.
I don't know... either live with it you might get used to it (?) or return it and keep the Samsung. Sometimes LG philips might have more versions than the one you bought that have different coatings, but it's not necessarily compatible.

It's 42T0406 the 220-nit one. I ordered it from IBM. Will getting it coated to glossy fix this issue?

Well, now i'm a bit puzzled - according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/TFT_displ ... _ThinkPads Yours should be the 220 nits LCD as you said. However, LG/Philips model name isn't mentioned.
I looked at the mentioned LCD below which is 200 nits - and is a LP141WP1-TLB8. I found the datasheet for it here:
http://www.gblcd.com/datacenter/lg_Philips/LP141WP1.pdf

However, it states 220 nits - and it states that the best/fine 150 anti-glare treatment has been used. One would assume it has as little sparkle as possible.

Was yours also a TLB8?

I can't guarantee anything - it also depends a little on the polarizers sheets utilized behind the glass, so i'm not sure if re-coating to glossy would be the "solution", but most likely it will become better than now.

Troels wrote:Well, now i'm a bit puzzled - according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/TFT_displ ... _ThinkPads Yours should be the 220 nits LCD as you said. However, LG/Philips model name isn't mentioned.
I looked at the mentioned LCD below which is 200 nits - and is a LP141WP1-TLB8. I found the datasheet for it here:
http://www.gblcd.com/datacenter/lg_Philips/LP141WP1.pdf

However, it states 220 nits - and it states that the best/fine 150 anti-glare treatment has been used. One would assume it has as little sparkle as possible.

Was yours also a TLB8?

I can't guarantee anything - it also depends a little on the polarizers sheets utilized behind the glass, so i'm not sure if re-coating to glossy would be the "solution", but most likely it will become better than now.

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I can't find any mention of what LG-Philips thinks these suffixes mean, it's a total mess.
It would be nice if someone could chime in on this one.

Troels wrote:I can't find any mention of what LG-Philips thinks these suffixes mean, it's a total mess.
It would be nice if someone could chime in on this one.

What should I do?

A) Try another refurbished screen from IBM (This one is a refurb also).
B) Get it coated to glossy for $100 plus shipping charges.
C) Live with it