R&R, a necessity?

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visch1 · #1 Post by **visch1** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:43 pm

I perhaps am wrong, being new to notebooks, the widespread call for making or having R&R disks or the hidden OS on the original HD. I could be called an extreme paranoia back up NUT with good reason. I make a fresh image of my drives about twice a week. I just can’t imagine loading all the items that I have since starting to use a machine, updates, drivers, apps reg #s and on and on. If I have a flakey operation I just go to the last BU and load it in under ½ hour and I’m on the road. System recovery is off in my machines as it’s a space hog and is quite limited in repair. Please guide me if my thinking is off base. By the way I keep all 1 1/2T of photos and MPs on external duplicate drives.

Marin85 · #2 Post by **Marin85** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:50 pm

Well, that pretty much depends on what you do on your ThinkPad and also, of course, on your past experience. If one has ever happened to mess up things a lot, one knows the value of doing regular backups

Cheers

Marin

visch1 · #3 Post by **visch1** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:17 pm

One does not have to mess up! It just happens,that's why service and customer service is so BIG. NOT at all saying people are not a factor. There is an expression "your hard drive WILL fail." Some months down the road I sure don't want to reload all I've put in.

Marin85 · #4 Post by **Marin85** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:11 pm

visch1 wrote:One does not have to mess up! It just happens,that's why service and customer service is so BIG. NOT at all saying people are not a factor. There is an expression "your hard drive WILL fail." Some months down the road I sure don't want to reload all I've put in.

I count that too

pae77 · #5 Post by **pae77** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:51 pm

I agree, that why I like making regular clone backups of my hard drive using Acronis rather than R&R. In fact, I'm thinking of doing away with the service partition entirely and just relying on my cloned backups as the time is approaching when I could put the 8 GB or so of space it takes up to better use.

visch1 · #6 Post by **visch1** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:37 am

Again I partition C drive less than 30G and only IMAGE that. All my space hogging items are on other partitions and drives which I just drag and drop into. My images are less than 10G and are weekly which I save to another drive. I prefer images to cloning because once cloned I can’t go back a month or two to recover something I deleted that shouldn’t have been or something is flaky after an “update” etc. System restore is shut off as it’s a space hog and does not work the way a lot of people think. This is using XP.

Mike Austin · #7 Post by **Mike Austin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:35 am

pae77 wrote:I agree, that why I like making regular clone backups of my hard drive using Acronis rather than R&R. In fact, I'm thinking of doing away with the service partition entirely and just relying on my cloned backups as the time is approaching when I could put the 8 GB or so of space it takes up to better use.

I have just upgraded my HDD following a failure where I lost the R&R partition. I have always used DriveImage to create and restore images. I have never used the R&R partition. However, I would like to set one up (accessible with the blue button, if possible) so I can load DriveImage off disk and select an image to restore. This would be more convenient than my boot CD/DVD. How could I do this?

Marin85 · #8 Post by **Marin85** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:55 am

I don´t know if this is possible with DriveImage, but you can do that with Acronis True Image. Acronis creates the so called Secure Zone where it can store various backups (and of different kinds). Acronis also installs its bootloader, so you can boot directly into Acronis and use the secure zone no matter what has happened to your OS (OS-independent just like R&R with the predesktop area and the hidden partition).

Mike Austin · #9 Post by **Mike Austin** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:04 am

Marin85 wrote:I don´t know if this is possible with DriveImage, but you can do that with Acronis True Image.

I had a tinker with that last night on a spare disk. It is a comprehensive bit of software, but I would like to stay with the familiar. I am too old to learn new tricks!

hellosailor · #10 Post by **hellosailor** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:47 pm

Visch, if anyone tells you that you are paranoid, obsessed, or too cautious, just say "thank you" and wait patiently. When THEIR system crashes and it takes them a week to rebuild and they mourn over the lost data, flip a coin to see if you should stick your tongue out or just smile sympathetically.<G>

I know one Great American Novel, one tax accounting practice, a couple of other mournful tales from folks who never thought THEY would have to backup.

So, you start a backup and go out for a cup of coffee, no big deal.

visch1 · #11 Post by **visch1** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:18 am

OMG I just imaged 3 drives OSs. My paranoia is based on the "old" days I used to service small systems and used punched paper tape so I've got my many reasons for not wanting to load from scratch, besides all the things needed and I can't find.

guxbo · #12 Post by **guxbo** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:09 pm

i will say good habit (of use and backup) and ghost img are everything you need.

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