T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

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T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#1 Post by furrycute » Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:08 pm

I purchased my T60p in 2007 with the old Thinkvantage suite. I am mainly interested in the Rescue and Recovery. However, right now when I try to update the Rescue and Recovery program, it wont let me update it, it's telling me that it is incompatible. I read somewhere that Lenovo has a new Rescue Recovery program. What should I do if I want to update? Should I uninstall the old Rescue and Recovery, and the install the new one? And if I do that, what would happen to the Rescue and Recovery partition? Will that get updated as well?

And right now I am having weird problems with updating Vista. I have Vista ultimate 32bit installed. However, Windows wont let me install Vista service pack 1, it's telling me that there are some problems, which I have no idea what. Oh, my copy of Vista is factory installed, 100% legit. Can anyone help?


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Re: T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#2 Post by Yacek » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:54 pm

furrycute wrote:I purchased my T60p in 2007 with the old Thinkvantage suite. I am mainly interested in the Rescue and Recovery. However, right now when I try to update the Rescue and Recovery program, it wont let me update it, it's telling me that it is incompatible. I read somewhere that Lenovo has a new Rescue Recovery program. What should I do if I want to update? Should I uninstall the old Rescue and Recovery, and the install the new one? And if I do that, what would happen to the Rescue and Recovery partition? Will that get updated as well?

And right now I am having weird problems with updating Vista. I have Vista ultimate 32bit installed. However, Windows wont let me install Vista service pack 1, it's telling me that there are some problems, which I have no idea what. Oh, my copy of Vista is factory installed, 100% legit. Can anyone help?


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Go to Lenovo site, download all software needed, incl. R&R, Power Manager, Access Connections, Update System and what do you want more (I do use only these four). Then uninstall all old stuff and install new one.
Done.
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Re: T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#3 Post by lifrancis » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:56 pm

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Go to Lenovo site, download all software needed, incl. R&R, Power Manager, Access Connections, Update System and what do you want more (I do use only these four). Then uninstall all old stuff and install new one.
Done.[/quote]

Using the computer is suppose to make things quick and easy. It is such a pain to download and install the drivers and softwares one at a time. I found that it is much easier and more certain of the results if I just download and install "System Update" from Lenovo and let the program do all the leg work for me.
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Re: T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#4 Post by GlynH » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:00 am

That would be a great solution if only System Update wasn't completely brain dead...

Every time I have used System Update it has failed me in one way or another.

The usual culprit is when it goes to update RnR - it goes through the process of downloading a huge file, runs it and fails with the error;

'A later version of Rescue and Recovery - Client Security Solution is already installed on this machine. The setup cannot continue'

This has been repeatable behaviour onthe last 3 X41T machines I have had back.

It gets worse - even if I were to manage the automatic upgrade through System Update I am unsure whether or not it would display the following info before upgrading the existing RnR;

'This upgrade will remove the following functions: Rescue and Recovery workspace authentication, the ability to recover forgotten passwords, and the ability to encrypt backups with Client Security Solution. These features will not be available after the upgrade process is complete. Any backups encrypted using Client Security Solution will be inaccessible.'

Let me just repeat that last bit again - Any backups encrypted using Client Security Solution will be inaccessible.

Way to go Lenovo...who comes up with gems such as this??

System Update depends wholly upon the Package Index Server being up & running (it seemed to be down for a whole month earlier this year) and when it is running it is so slow as to be almost unusable.

Is Lenovo taking the PIS? :wink:

Couple that with other instances of System Update failing and it seems to me that it is hardly letting the program do the leg work for you...

Just my 2c of course but it is the single, biggest factor that has prevented me from buying any other Lenovo product since!

Well apart from the fact that the X41T is so slow it should never have been released to the general public...I bought 15 of the [censored] things when they were released...

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Re: T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#5 Post by dr_st » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:08 am

furrycute wrote:I purchased my T60p in 2007 with the old Thinkvantage suite. I am mainly interested in the Rescue and Recovery.
Good God, why?! Of all the useful and semi-useful Thinkvantage utilities, you are mainly interested in this useless bloated annoying utility whose main feature seems to be filling your hard drive with gigabyte over gigabyte of hidden backups that you didn't ask for?!

*pulls hair* :wink:
GlynH wrote:System Update depends wholly upon the Package Index Server being up & running (it seemed to be down for a whole month earlier this year) and when it is running it is so slow as to be almost unusable.
It happens quite often, true, but usually it does work. I've successfully updated Thinkvantage utilities multiple times on multiple machines using System Update. I think I even managed to update R&R once (it was necessary to make the hidden partition accessible).
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Re: T60p, Thinkvantage suite reinstall

#6 Post by Joseph-N » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:28 pm

This isn't that rare a problem. When I bought a t60p from IBM Certified used, it arrived without Thinkvantage installed, even though their website clearly states it includes Thinkvantage.

When I contacted (Flextronics) Customer Service, they didn't even tell me I could get the stuff off the Lenovo website. They admitted I was correct and essentially told me to buzz off.

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