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Hey guys,

I have a ThinkPad T60p 2623-DDU running with a 2.0 GHz Core Duo, which is of course a 32-bit processor. If I upgraded to the equivalent 64-bit 2.0 GHz Core 2 Duo, would I be able to install 64-bit Windows 7, or would the motherboard still not be able to support a 64-bit OS?

Thanks,

cxls

EDIT: This is the processor to which I would upgrade: http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... ps-sellers

Hey there.

You will just need to drop in either a T7200, T7400, or T7600... all of those are Core 2 Duo processors and therefore 64-bit.

I'm running Vista Ultimate x64 on my T60p with a T7200 and have had absolutely no issues, so you'll be able to run an x64-based Win7 OS without a hitch.

LegendaryKA8 wrote:Hey there.

You will just need to drop in either a T7200, T7400, or T7600... all of those are Core 2 Duo processors and therefore 64-bit.

I'm running Vista Ultimate x64 on my T60p with a T7200 and have had absolutely no issues, so you'll be able to run an x64-based Win7 OS without a hitch.

Thanks for the info. Did you upgrade to a T7200 from a Core Duo or did it come stock with it? (I can't remember of T60p's ever came with C2D from the factory)

I'm just concerned about whether or not there's anything on the motherboard that won't be able to support 64-bit.

The last revision of the T60 (fall 2006) came with Core 2 Duos.

Everybody has always been saying that you need the Rev. 3 motherboard to support C2D (CPU-Z will show you the revision), but at the same time no one has ever seen anything but Rev. 3 on a T60, so I say it should be a pretty straightforward upgrade for you.

cxls wrote:Thanks for the info. Did you upgrade to a T7200 from a Core Duo or did it come stock with it? (I can't remember of T60p's ever came with C2D from the factory)

I'm just concerned about whether or not there's anything on the motherboard that won't be able to support 64-bit.

My particular T60p(which is actually a T60 with a FireGL motherboard and a UXGA T60p lid) originally came with a Core Duo. The person I bought it from upgraded it with the T7200. As far as I know, there's nothing in the system that has any issues with a 64-bit OS.

LegendaryKA8 wrote:My particular T60p(which is actually a T60 with a FireGL motherboard and a UXGA T60p lid) originally came with a Core Duo. The person I bought it from upgraded it with the T7200. As far as I know, there's nothing in the system that has any issues with a 64-bit OS.

Awesome, that sounds like everything I needed to know. Thanks!

Is it the 478 pin Socket M or 479 pin Socket M?

According to the specs here:
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27 ... LGFJ,SLGFV

Intel made two types of Socket M 7400s. Which do I need for a T60?

sirfergy wrote:Intel made two types of Socket M 7400s. Which do I need for a T60?

These are the three upgrade choices for a T60 :
SL9SF (T7200, 2.0GHz)
SL9SE (T7400, 2.16GHz)
SL9SD (T7600, 2.33GHz)

GACrabill wrote:These are the three upgrade choices for a T60 :
SL9SF (T7200, 2.0GHz)
SL9SE (T7400, 2.16GHz)
SL9SD (T7600, 2.33GHz)

OK, does anyone have any practical, real-world experience with such an upgrade? I'm not trying to usurp the thread, but this is interesting. I have a 2.16GHz T2600 in my T60p. The 2.16GHz SL9SE seems to be about $250, plus or minus.

Given the advantage of the 64-bit upgrade path, would there be a perceptible improvement in responsiveness, multi-processing, battery usage, adoration of my peer group, etc, etc?

Art

ArtShapiro wrote: OK, does anyone have any practical, real-world experience with such an upgrade? I'm not trying to usurp the thread, but this is interesting. I have a 2.16GHz T2600 in my T60p. The 2.16GHz SL9SE seems to be about $250, plus or minus.

Given the advantage of the 64-bit upgrade path, would there be a perceptible improvement in responsiveness, multi-processing, battery usage, adoration of my peer group, etc, etc?

Art

I unfortunately can't speak for the T60p path per se(as I already have a T7200), but I just upgraded from a Core Duo L2400(1.66Ghz) to a Core 2 Duo L7700(1.83Ghz) in my (now)X61s. I noticed a significant increase in responsiveness, but it won't be completely mindblowing. I don't use any 64-bit applications as of yet, but I have noticed 64-bit Vista is quite a bit more stable than its 32-bit counterpart. I mainly did the upgrade as I intend to keep these machines for a while and wanted the best configurations I could get to 'future-proof' them a little further.

The T5500 and T5600 would work as well if you're on a tighter budget. For most things you'd never notice a difference between them.

Its possible i replaces my T2400 (core duo) for an T5600 (core 2 duo)
It now runs windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.
In the windows assesment test my proccessor score went fron 3.2 to a 4.9
Proccessor speed is same on both cpu's.

The only problem is where to get an socket M processor.
It is not for sale anymore.
I pulled the proccessor out of an HP laptop.

FredGarvin wrote:The T5500 and T5600 would work as well if you're on a tighter budget. For most things you'd never notice a difference between them.

OK, I'm totally confused. I see a T5600 on eBay labelled as Socket 479, with the textual description stating "this is Socket M, not Socket P" and words to the effect of "make sure this is appropriate...".

Is there a difference between Socket M and Socket 479?

Art

FredGarvin wrote:The T5500 and T5600 would work as well if you're on a tighter budget. For most things you'd never notice a difference between them.

My interpretation of the Intel chart here :
http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.a ... =&OrdCode=
shows that the T5500 and T5600 must be early model Core 2 Duo processors since they have the same size cache as Core Duo processors.

sSpec# Speed Processor # Cores Bus-Speed Mfg-Tech Stepping Cache-Size Package

SL9SH 1.66 GHz T5500 2 667 MHz 65 nm B2 2MB Micro-FCPGA
SL9SG 1.83 GHz T5600 2 667 MHz 65 nm B2 2MB Micro-FCPGA
SL9SF 2.00 GHz T7200 2 667 MHz 65 nm B2 4MB Micro-FCPGA
SL9SE 2.16 GHz T7400 2 667 MHz 65 nm B2 4MB Micro-FCPGA
SL9SD 2.33 GHz T7600 2 667 MHz 65 nm B2 4MB Micro-FCPGA

Most folks would not consider a T5500 or T5600 much of an "upgrade" since the cache is the same as the Core Duo processors.

ArtShapiro :
Unfortunately, Intel shows two T5600 processors in their chart ... the SL9SG is the correct B2 stepping for a T60. The SL9U3 T5600 is the incorrect L2 stepping (for a T60). Therefore, the real question is: "Is the eBay T5600 a SL9SG?"

GACrabill wrote: Most folks would not consider a T5500 or T5600 much of an "upgrade" since the cache is the same as the Core Duo processors.

The most interesting advantage to me is the possibility of running a 64 bit OS (which I've not done before on my home machines) or even the latest VMware stuff which is 64-bit only. I'd hope the fact that it's a Core 2 Duo would make up tor the slightly slower processor speed (1.83 vs 2.00 on my existing T2500 CPU.)

It seems to me that the cost of the T7200/7400/7600 is still difficult to justify given the market value of a T60 or T60p. Personally, my T61 is faster than my T60p (T7300 - don't know how that differs from the even numbered ones), but is a wretched widescreen model, so I tend to use the T60p a lot more. Thus I don't mind throwing some cash into it if I stumble on a decent deal.

Art

ArtShapiro wrote:OK, I'm totally confused. I see a T5600 on eBay labelled as Socket 479, with the textual description stating "this is Socket M, not Socket P" and words to the effect of "make sure this is appropriate...".

Is there a difference between Socket M and Socket 479?

Art

Its the same.
Try to use google it worked for me.

Possible, but the only real reason to do it is to get a performance upgrade, as the chipset can't support more than 3* GiB RAM anyway, even with a 64-bit OS.

* With BIOS hacking, 3.25 is possible on discrete graphics, and 3.5 might be possible on integrated graphics.

Would the T7700 or T7800 work in the T60's ?

No, they're Socket P processors. They'll work great in a T61, but the T60 is Socket M.