T60p screen replacement

[mario_jr]

Hi!!
I need to replace my broken 14.1 LCD from my t60p.
Can I replace it using one from a t61?

Thanks for your attention.

[dr_st]

If it is a 14.1" 4:3 T61, then yes.

[mario_jr]

If it is a 14.1" 4:3 T61, then yes.

This one :

http://cgi.ebay.com/LAPTOP-LCD-SCREEN-L ... 857wt_1030

Thanks again:

[richk]

No. That is for a wide model.

[dr_st]

Says 14.1" SXGA+....

[RealBlackStuff]

These are the correct SXGA+ 14.1" 4:3 for a T61:
Hydis 42T0433
Samsung 42X4582
Samsung 42X4687
TMD 13N7063

T60 SXGA+ 14.1" 4:3 screens that will also work:
Samsung 13N7059
BOE-Hydis 13N7061

[mario_jr]

wow.. thanks for the help =D
I've read here in the forum that LTD141EN9B will fit in a t60p.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=423131
Im about to order that one.

Thanks again

[richk]

I misread the manufacturer's number. That is a 4:3, like you want.

[mario_jr]

Well... just to update you.
I received my LCD, but the seller is a liar and sent me a no name 14.1 SXGA+ with this code in it NRP28-DEM1X112.
If I just plug the flat and the inverter cable.. it simply wont start up.. but if power the system with my old LCD connected and then change the LCDs flats the system show up and the screen is a kinda grainy.
Any Ideas how to fix this problem?

Thanks

[RealBlackStuff]

Return for a full refund, buy a screen with IBM FRU or P/N.

[mario_jr]

Just doing that!
Thanks =D
BTW.. My old LCD was a Samsung, is it worth to keep Samsung, or should I give TMD a chance?

Thanks!

[Troels]

So you're saying that the new LCD you got shows an image, if you boot up with your old LCD, unplug it, and pluf in the new LCD?
Sounds like an EDID issue to me, and by plugging the new LCD in afterwards it uses the display timings that you old LCD requires... which probably isn't going to be 100% identical. I think it can be made to work correctly, but nothing is for certain though

Was your old screen XGA or SXGA+? If it was XGA, then it's no wonder why the new screens looks grainy.

[mario_jr]

So you're saying that the new LCD you got shows an image, if you boot up with your old LCD, unplug it, and pluf in the new LCD?
Sounds like an EDID issue to me, and by plugging the new LCD in afterwards it uses the display timings that you old LCD requires... which probably isn't going to be 100% identical. I think it can be made to work correctly, but nothing is for certain though

Was your old screen XGA or SXGA+? If it was XGA, then it's no wonder why the new screens looks grainy.

Hi!
The old one was a Samsung SXGA+ as the new one.
How can I fix this EDID issued?
Just downloaded PCWizard2010 and I cant get any data about this no name LCD.. all I have about it is this model no. NRP28-DEM1X112

[richk]

If it is grainy, it is the wrong screen. If you flash the eeid, you cannot return it. I think the TMD screens are the best ones, but that is just my preference.

[mario_jr]

If it is grainy, it is the wrong screen. If you flash the eeid, you cannot return it. I think the TMD screens are the best ones, but that is just my preference.

Do you think that flashing a new EDID can solve de grainy problem ? How can I flash it?
This screen is really weird.. there is no information on it.. nothing.. no manufacturer .. nada. I don know why.. but I think its an old 14.1 SXGA+ from a T4X

[Troels]

Richk is right. I don't think you received the wrong screen on intention - they have detailed pics of it, and they state the model number in the auction. Modifying the EDID is kinda in the grey-zone even if you are careful about it and can change it back to factory settings.

Can you possibly post any pic(s) of what this "graininess" looks like? Initially, i thought that it was just operating in non-native resolution, but it sounds like not to be the case.
Also, could you post a link to a pic of the back side of the LCD panel? Someone might be able to identify it from the layout etc... and i'm just curious

Searching the model-number of the LCD you received yields this thread: http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/thinkpad-h ... er-defekt/
A user has apparently received this laptop LCD to replace his old Boe-Hydis LCD in his T43. But when installed, it never displays an image, and the laptop shuts off after three seconds. When he reconnects the old Boe-Hydis LCD, it now doesn't work at all either. He apparently asked the seller, ScreenAid.com what made this new screen compatible with his T43, to which they applied.

"If the three parameter is the same as yours.(size ,resolution and the backlight type)
I think they are compatible"

Makes one wonder what they are thinking, and why someone should pay them for anything, doesn't it?

[mario_jr]

Richk is right. I don't think you received the wrong screen on intention - they have detailed pics of it, and they state the model number in the auction. Modifying the EDID is kinda in the grey-zone even if you are careful about it and can change it back to factory settings.

Can you possibly post any pic(s) of what this "graininess" looks like? Initially, i thought that it was just operating in non-native resolution, but it sounds like not to be the case.
Also, could you post a link to a pic of the back side of the LCD panel? Someone might be able to identify it from the layout etc... and i'm just curious

Searching the model-number of the LCD you received yields this thread: http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/thinkpad-h ... er-defekt/
A user has apparently received this laptop LCD to replace his old Boe-Hydis LCD in his T43. But when installed, it never displays an image, and the laptop shuts off after three seconds. When he reconnects the old Boe-Hydis LCD, it now doesn't work at all either. He apparently asked the seller, ScreenAid.com what made this new screen compatible with his T43, to which they applied.

"If the three parameter is the same as yours.(size ,resolution and the backlight type)
I think they are compatible"

Makes one wonder what they are thinking, and why someone should pay them for anything, doesn't it?

I was considering EDID change only if I decided to not send it back.
Till now no answer from seller.

This is (was) my auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... AQ:US:1123

The bottom of the screen is voided (think its the CCFL place ).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48791564@N04/4467588555/

The LCD.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48791564@N04/4467585581/


The weird screen.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48791564@N04/4468356462/

[richk]

modifying the eeid can change color settings and timings. Running with the wrong stuff can damage the screen. Flashing the eeid is not trivial. It requires building an interface circuit from a port (parallel or serial) on another machine to a bare panel, connecting the interface to connections on the panel circuitry, then running software on the second machine to read, modify and write the image.

[mario_jr]

modifying the eeid can change color settings and timings. Running with the wrong stuff can damage the screen. Flashing the eeid is not trivial. It requires building an interface circuit from a port (parallel or serial) on another machine to a bare panel, connecting the interface to connections on the panel circuitry, then running software on the second machine to read, modify and write the image.

As an engineer would be very interesting to test this things. But I dont have time to do that now
I need my precious t60p back to life.

Im not used to take pictures from LCD's screens.. is this picture normal?

Thanks

[mario_jr]

Two more pictures.. now you may see what I see.. annoying diagonal lines.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48791564@N04/4467820533/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/48791564@N04/4468596044/

[Troels]

Thanks for the pics.
After some heavy searching what you have there appears to be this: http://images.gittigidiyor.com/2201/LTD ... 8464_0.jpg

This is a LTD141EM1X made by TMD (Toshiba-Mashushita). Apparently, this was used in a Sony Vaio Z1 laptop. Can't find any specifications about this LCD.

The LTD141EN9B looks like this: http://image1.nowec.com/2009/8/29/123sc ... 070922.jpg

Since the seller you bought the panel from says he bought it from Hong Kong, it leads me to believe that the seller in Hong Kong removed the label to hide where the panel was made. Then he was able to ship it at a very low declared value as a "product sample".

Flashing the EDID can also be done by a registered version of Powerstrip, but you'll need an external monitor to hook up to the VGA output to do this. But still, the bottom of the LCD seems open, right? A lot of light must escape this way... so the image should be rather bad looking... i.e. non-uniform. Don't know if this is the case though.

About the diagonal lines, i don't really know.

An interesting thing to try would be to run Monitor Asset Manager - http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm and click file -> save report. Then using notepad, copy-paste the info regarding the new LCD panel in a post here... if this lcd even has an edid Doing this will not harm anything.

[mario_jr]

Thanks for the pics.
After some heavy searching what you have there appears to be this: http://images.gittigidiyor.com/2201/LTD ... 8464_0.jpg

This is a LTD141EM1X made by TMD (Toshiba-Mashushita). Apparently, this was used in a Sony Vaio Z1 laptop. Can't find any specifications about this LCD.

The LTD141EN9B looks like this: http://image1.nowec.com/2009/8/29/123sc ... 070922.jpg

Since the seller you bought the panel from says he bought it from Hong Kong, it leads me to believe that the seller in Hong Kong removed the label to hide where the panel was made. Then he was able to ship it at a very low declared value as a "product sample".

Flashing the EDID can also be done by a registered version of Powerstrip, but you'll need an external monitor to hook up to the VGA output to do this. But still, the bottom of the LCD seems open, right? A lot of light must escape this way... so the image should be rather bad looking... i.e. non-uniform. Don't know if this is the case though.

About the diagonal lines, i don't really know.

An interesting thing to try would be to run Monitor Asset Manager - http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm and click file -> save report. Then using notepad, copy-paste the info regarding the new LCD panel in a post here... if this lcd even has an edid Doing this will not harm anything.

WoWW!
Awesome job !

I was answering yesterday, but the LCD apparently smoked my inverter while I was typing so I stoped messing with it.
You are right, the previous seller as decieved by the guy from HK, and here goes the worst part, I couldnt retrieve any EDID information , downloaded 3 different programs and nothing ( did it while my inverter was alive =D).
Gonna send the LCD back and ask for a full refund, then buy another one ( hope the right one this time ^^)

[Troels]

Aww... at least inverters are pretty inexpensive.
If you can't retrieve an EDID, there's no onboard EEPROM to store the EDID.

The LCD ribbon cable you have - are you completely sure it is free from rips/tears ? I mean the diagonal lines, and inverter cutting out and all... the Y-joint where parts of the cable goes to the inverter is easy to damage.