Battery at 25% after nonuse
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JerzeeDevil
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Battery at 25% after nonuse
I charged up the 9 cell battery, did not use Thinkpad for 3 weeks and found the battery at 25%. Is this typical?
Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
Li-Ion will loose /some/ charge on their own, but typical is much less then what you describe.
Ni-Cd: 10% after a day if not used, 10% more in 1st month sitting idle.
NimH: 30% in a month (but typically has 40% more full charge then Ni-Cd)
LSD NimH: 1.25% per month (LSD = Low Self-Discharge types)
Li-Ion: 5-10% per month. (This is normally due to the drain of the built-in voltage monitoring circuit when talking Li-Ion packs like in laptops)
If you store Li-Ion packs often, store them at 40% charge in a cool place (even a refrigerator is good
). They all have permanent loss, when stored at a rather warm 77F(25C) at 100% charge they have a permanent capacity loss of like 20%, this is only like 5% when stored at 40% charge.
75% is 3 weeks though seems WAY high, is it an older battery? Also was this 100% down to 25% or the proper storage of 40% down to 25%? Either way, still high loss. All this is if we are talking about Li-Ion... you didn't specify
(My 760's take 9 cell NiMH or Li-Ion, my 701C takes 9 cell Ni-Cd or NiMH)
Ni-Cd: 10% after a day if not used, 10% more in 1st month sitting idle.
NimH: 30% in a month (but typically has 40% more full charge then Ni-Cd)
LSD NimH: 1.25% per month (LSD = Low Self-Discharge types)
Li-Ion: 5-10% per month. (This is normally due to the drain of the built-in voltage monitoring circuit when talking Li-Ion packs like in laptops)
If you store Li-Ion packs often, store them at 40% charge in a cool place (even a refrigerator is good
75% is 3 weeks though seems WAY high, is it an older battery? Also was this 100% down to 25% or the proper storage of 40% down to 25%? Either way, still high loss. All this is if we are talking about Li-Ion... you didn't specify
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JerzeeDevil
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Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
The battery is 3 years old but had never been used.
Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
It's quite possible the battery is at only 25% of it's original capacity when it is "fully charged"
The chemical reaction takes place whether you use them or not... 3-4 years is often the lifespan of rechargeable batteries.
The gauge in the battery is probably lying to you, I have some older batteries that will charge and report 100%, but then I unplug the laptop and they drop to 0 within minutes.
The chemical reaction takes place whether you use them or not... 3-4 years is often the lifespan of rechargeable batteries.
The gauge in the battery is probably lying to you, I have some older batteries that will charge and report 100%, but then I unplug the laptop and they drop to 0 within minutes.
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Colonel O'Neill
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Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
Did you leave it in the laptop? If so, then it will drain a bit to keep certain wake-on-link devices powered.
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Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
Find a "Battery Meter" diagnostic software tool, e.g. Battery MaxiMiser (PC - Doctor, Everest??)
It will give you more information to help you decide whether the battery is worth keeping.
-- Full Charge Capacity
-- Design Capacity
-- Cycle Count
It will give you more information to help you decide whether the battery is worth keeping.
-- Full Charge Capacity
-- Design Capacity
-- Cycle Count
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Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
Power Manager supplanted Battery Maximizer, and has the functionality you describe.
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Re: Battery at 25% after nonuse
could just be battery calibration being off too....
if the battery sat at full charge the whole time for 3 years - that is pretty hard on it! better to leave it drained for 3 years
i do have experiences with sanyos and sony "dying" from that - less than 50 cycles, and it would last until there is a bigger current draw on it, and it would jump to automatic shutdown... no amount of calibration could fix that - and battery info even reports a battery holding 90% capacity
if the battery sat at full charge the whole time for 3 years - that is pretty hard on it! better to leave it drained for 3 years
i do have experiences with sanyos and sony "dying" from that - less than 50 cycles, and it would last until there is a bigger current draw on it, and it would jump to automatic shutdown... no amount of calibration could fix that - and battery info even reports a battery holding 90% capacity
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