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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#121 Post by .nox » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:40 am

So I'm gathering from this thread that a SXGA mod is possible for a X41T ?

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#122 Post by charles.atcher » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:54 pm

Did the install tonight, and man, what a difference. This is how these laptops should have come. LOVE IT! Now my X31/X32 Frankenpad is even more evil, :twisted: :twisted: .
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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#123 Post by Mooseifer » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:43 pm

Did the install tonight, and man, what a difference. This is how these laptops should have come. LOVE IT! Now my X31/X32 Frankenpad is even more evil, .
Glad you're enjoying the Frankenpad! :D

Yep, it is amazing how much better the sxga+ Flexview is compared to the standard panel. When I look at the X32 with this display it amazes me that is was never offered as an option. I always liked my X32, but it's seeing even more use now. My next goal is to perform the same mod on the X61s; fabricating the jumper harness is going to be a challenge, but then I like a challenge! :D

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#124 Post by Terrahawk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:50 pm

Message for fasterbybike - I've got one of those 12in SXGA+ panels on the way, and could I please have a copy of the modded X31 BIOS?

I'd send it by PM but I'm not sure if they're going through at the moment.

I'm looking forward to installing this thing. One day I'll be brave enough to attempt to reflow an ATI 7500 onto an X31. It would appear that removing the BGA from the board is easy enough but I'm not sure if I'm skilled enough, or have the right equipment to pop another one on.
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#125 Post by Terrahawk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:45 am

Just got my panel this morning and I'm testing it out on my spare X31 now. I look forward to getting SXGA+ going. So far, it works well but I'm working on getting the BIOS updated...
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#126 Post by Terrahawk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:35 am

I've just managed to shoehorn the actual active LCD part of the SXGA LCD into the old XGA LCD assembly... but there's a bit of dirt inside... bah. I'll disassemble it carefully tomorrow morning and get it out. At least now I'll be able to put the panel in as if it were an original X31 panel. Yay.
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#127 Post by Terrahawk » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:51 am

...and done. Works, but there's a light patch at the top left of the screen. Oh well. I have so far managed to minimise it by the judicious use of tiny pieces of foam tape inside the LCD assembly.

I love this resolution.
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#128 Post by rek » Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:46 am

Am I reading you right? You actually disassembled both LCD panels and swapped the guts (as in the transistor films etc.) over?

Incredible! :bow:

EDIT: hmm just playing around with a broken panel I have here.. wow the panel pieces come apart (and go back together again) easier than I thought..!
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#129 Post by Terrahawk » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:49 pm

Yep, that's what I did. It works well apart from a small bit of light leakage at the top left corner which is not noticeable under general use. It would go away but I had to fold the LCD ribbon cable and add an extension so things are a little crowded under there and there is a tiny amount of strain on the panel when I screw in all the mounts.

If I run the panel free (i.e. not mounted in the X31), it's pretty much perfect.
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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#130 Post by re404 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:29 pm

Wow that's a VERY interesting upgrade for my X41 tablet !

Are there many people who managed to put a SXGA+ ( 1400 x 1050 ) panel in the X41 tablet ?

And is the BIOS mod necessary ?

And how much should I pay (on eBay?) for such a part ?

Any other tips / advise ?

Thanks a lot!


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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#131 Post by re404 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:36 pm

hmmmmzzz... they seem to be hard to find, right?
This is one, right? http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-LENOVO-13N7204- ... 952wt_1091
Pretty expensive. For that amout I might be able to find a broken X60/61 with a non-broken SXGA+ screen ...

Any other suggestions?

Thanks so much.

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#132 Post by re404 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:53 am

I found one for $180
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBM-93P5609-LAPTOP- ... 2a0bbac3d3

Chinese replicas anyone? ;)

Oh, this is more like it: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MOTION-COMPUTIN ... 1c1702c089
30 pin. Is that right?

Bye,
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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#133 Post by force » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:10 am

The mounting on the 2nd one is different than the original screen. You should check the pinout on those panels to avoid destroying the panel due to reversed voltages or things like that.

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#134 Post by plympton » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:17 am

force wrote:The mounting on the 2nd one is different than the original screen. You should check the pinout on those panels to avoid destroying the panel due to reversed voltages or things like that.
I'll second this advice! The IPS XGA panel I got from an X41 Tablet had its connector reversed - completely! What this meant was the connector would fit, but not work. I actually had to shave off the lock-out on the cable, and flip it, plug & tape it to the LCD connector to ensure a solid connection. Fortunately, you can do this without a new cable, so it works awesome.

But check those pinouts - I didn't fry mine when I plugged it in the right (physical) / wrong (electrical) way, but YMMV.

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#135 Post by force » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:22 am

I forgot that the SXGA+ panels like the ones I used also have the different mounting screws which must be cut off (metal tab with plastic underneath molded around metal screw threads) in order to fit.

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#136 Post by re404 » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:00 am

I don't mind cutting, grinding and sanding at all :).

Cut may I assume from your comments that the panel above WOULD fit after the necessary mods?

Thanks//R

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#137 Post by ReCreate » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:20 pm

re404 wrote:Wow that's a VERY interesting upgrade for my X41 tablet !

Are there many people who managed to put a SXGA+ ( 1400 x 1050 ) panel in the X41 tablet ?

And is the BIOS mod necessary ?

And how much should I pay (on eBay?) for such a part ?

Any other tips / advise ?

Thanks a lot!


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#138 Post by re404 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:03 pm

re404 and ReCreate are waiting for reply ... ;)

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#139 Post by lailai » Tue May 01, 2012 5:16 am

re404, ReCreate and lailai are waiting for reply :roll:

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#140 Post by force » Tue May 01, 2012 1:59 pm

I've only half-way done the mod for a X32 (the LCD pinout was exactly the reverse) and succeeded with the X61s. I believe a modified bios was required for both, although Ubuntu was able to correctly detect and use 1400x1050. The Thinkpad boot screen was tiled and the hsync was out of whack.

I've seen the SXGA+ displays from anywhere from 100 to 200 US dollars, but keep in mind that they are IPS displays. I would obtain a datasheet of the part you want to use and see if it is compatible before attempting to undertake this project.

Other thoughts:
For the X61, the pinout of the panel and the connector was different and required rewiring.
I've not done modifications to tablets before, but I'd be concerned about the digitizer compatibility. Re-use the existing one, if possible (it was a separate component on mine, attached with adhesive on the back- pretty easy to pull off).

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#141 Post by Digitalhorizons » Thu May 10, 2012 8:04 am

I too am very curious if someone got this to work with a x41 tablet.

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 /

#142 Post by aureage » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:40 am

I am so late for these bios(es). all links are invalid.
when you post this, I was so young that I cant do this alone
and now, I want to do thest things which you have done.
I want my x41 have sxga+ LCD, but I can't reach the bios. are thre anyone here can help me ??

my e-mail : liyijun08ic@126.com

thanks a lot, best wishes!

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#143 Post by whitelabel » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:46 am

Hi!

I know I'm a waaay too late on this topic, but still want to give it a try.
I'm looking for a X41 SXGA bios. Do someone happen to have it?
Tried to find it on my own, but no luck.

Would love to have a X41 with SXGA panel.

Thanks! :)

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Re: Succeed to install a 12.1" SXGA+ LCD for thinkpad x40 / x41

#144 Post by Sunshine701c » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:18 pm

Here we go, reviving this again
I've got an x41 tablet that i'd love to get a higher resolution screen in, but from the look of this thread I need a bios mod, as well as modifying the cable for the lcd itself.
I don't suppose any progress has been made on an x41 tablet bios?

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