X41 Tablet specs don't add up

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PRGeno · #1 Post by **PRGeno** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:29 pm

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a X41 Tablet 1866-6SU but there is a big descrepancy between the IBM/Lenovo web site and the tabook docs.

The dimensions are very important to me. Even though the model I have chosen inludes the 8 cell battery, I'm going to use the 4 cell battery to eliminate the buldging wing the 8 cell has sticking out of the back of the unit. I'll go with the extended battery instead to add thickness before I have that buldge sticking out.

But the other dimensions listed simply don't match between the two sources of information.

The web site states the dimensions with the 4 cell battery as:
8.3" x 10.5" x 0.81"

This is in line with the standard non-tablet X40 units I have purchased before, and what the tabook lists for the X40s.

However, the tabook docs show the X41 tablet with a 4 cell battery dimensions as:
9.5" x 10.8" x 1.14" - 1.26" (then the 8 cell adds a full inch to the 9.5")

This is a huge difference. I would have a big problem with the dimensions listed in the tabook. But would be quite comfortable with the size listed on the web site.

Is this descrepancy an error in the tabook or on the web site?

Does anyone know the real dimensions of this thing?

Thanks,

PRGeno

#2 Post by **JaneL** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:39 pm

Item #16 in the FAQ.

azX32 · #3 Post by **azX32** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:03 am

But that didn't answer the question. Maybe someone who gets an X41 tablet can.

beq · #4 Post by **beq** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:57 am

One thing I like about my X40 is that the dimensions using the 4-cell battery are smaller than a piece of letter-size (8.5" x 11") paper.

So going by the tabook, the X41 Tablet extends significantly deeper? And with the 8-cell battery, this tablet is almost square (10.5" x 10.8")??

froody8 · #5 Post by **froody8** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:42 am

How are you able to order these models? The website doesn't allow for anything other than modifying the base model. Can you order the other models on the phone?

Thanks.

#6 Post by **JaneL** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:46 am

azX32 wrote:But that didn't answer the question. Maybe someone who gets an X41 tablet can.

Really? Here's the question he asked that Item #16 in the FAQ answers:

PRGeno wrote:This is a huge difference. I would have a big problem with the dimensions listed in the tabook. But would be quite comfortable with the size listed on the web site.

Is this descrepancy an error in the tabook or on the web site?

Generally speaking, if the web says one thing and tabook says another, tabook is right. Failing someone with one in their hands to look at, I'd go with tabook.

bshadfan · #7 Post by **bshadfan** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:08 am

another thing.. i was looking at the educational discount thinkpads last night..

there were some with bluetooth and a 60GB hard drive.. but when you try and customize your own x41 with IBM's website you can only have a 40GB hd and no bluetooth. the wireless stuff is completely different too.. the initial specs talked about an Intel wireless adapter which the educational ones have but the custom ones don't have as an option.. their site is very strange.. maybe its all lost in translation

azX32 · #8 Post by **azX32** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:33 am

nonny wrote:Generally speaking, if the web says one thing and tabook says another, tabook is right. Failing someone with one in their hands to look at, I'd go with tabook.

Generally perhaps, but not always. Tabook says that X32 models with an included X3 base have a 16X CDR speed optical drive, whereas the web page I ordered mine from said 24X CDR. Lenovo tech support checked the specs for the P/N of my optical drive and said it's 24X. My observation of the CDR process in the writing app says that's correct.

sugo · #9 Post by **sugo** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:35 pm

If the thickness is well over an inch then its attractiveness to me will be much less .... hope someone can post a review soon to clear up the confusion.

PRGeno · #10 Post by **PRGeno** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:26 am

nonny wrote:Item #16 in the FAQ.

I have found both the tabook and website to have inaccuracies in the past.

I was trying to get a little more specific answer, maybe from someone who received their tablet already. I'm really hoping the web site is correct. as I'm not sure a square tablet will be very comfortable to use.

I've decided to wait to order my tablet. Instead have ordered the least expensive X41 tablet for evaluation and will give it to a coworker when I'm done testing it.

My decision has come down to between the X41 tablet and the Motion Computing LE1600. But in both cases, I wish these units had an option for the increased screen resolution of the Toshiba M200 (1400 x 1050).

PRGeno · #11 Post by **PRGeno** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:29 am

froody8 wrote:How are you able to order these models? The website doesn't allow for anything other than modifying the base model. Can you order the other models on the phone? Thanks.

The model on the IBM website is an Express model available to anyone on the web. The other models are available to order from corporate reseller. Delivery for these other models seems to be out a couple weeks right now.

PRGeno · #12 Post by **PRGeno** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:41 am

sugo wrote:If the thickness is well over an inch then its attractiveness to me will be much less .... hope someone can post a review soon to clear up the confusion.

I also find the thickness to be a problem. The Motion Computing LE1600 is around the same weight and size (slightly longer), and seems to have basically the same features (except for being a slate verses a convertable). But is is close to 1/2" thinner, which has quite a bit of appeal to me.

If the tabook is correct and the X41 is really 10.8" x 9.5" x 1.26" the LE1600 gets some more serious consideration.

On the other hand if the web site is correct and the X41 tablet is really only 10.5" x 8.3" x 0.81, then there is no contest. The X41 wins hands down.

wackydan · #13 Post by **wackydan** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:11 pm

PRGeno wrote:
sugo wrote:If the thickness is well over an inch then its attractiveness to me will be much less .... hope someone can post a review soon to clear up the confusion.
I also find the thickness to be a problem. The Motion Computing LE1600 is around the same weight and size (slightly longer), and seems to have basically the same features (except for being a slate verses a convertable). But is is close to 1/2" thinner, which has quite a bit of appeal to me.

If the tabook is correct and the X41 is really 10.8" x 9.5" x 1.26" the LE1600 gets some more serious consideration.

On the other hand if the web site is correct and the X41 tablet is really only 10.5" x 8.3" x 0.81, then there is no contest. The X41 wins hands down.

Well. The X41 Tablet uses different batteries then the X41. That may be the odd measurements you see. You can't use the X4 dock/ultrabase with the tablet either.

I think it was a poor decision to call it the X41 Tablet, as the chassis is not the same as the X41, hence the docking incompatibility, and different batteries. The center hinge design required the new battery design.

I've had one of the X41 Tablets in my hands at the Lenovo Roadshow events.

Sorry if that was pointed out in a different thread,

beq · #14 Post by **beq** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:22 pm

What, the X41 Tablet uses different dock and batteries than the X40/X41?

If you know of any other "surprises" please do share, thanks for the info!

bshadfan · #15 Post by **bshadfan** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:01 pm

wackydan wrote:You can't use the X4 dock/ultrabase with the tablet either.

You can use the tablet with the X4 dock, according to IBM's webpage. I sure hope you can as I ordered one with my x41 tablet yesterday. Didn't they essentially release the x4 dock with the x41 tablet? http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/store ... d=10000001

Notes: The ThinkPad X4 Dock is compatible with all ThinkPad X40 Series systems, including the ThinkPad X41 tablet.

Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.

wackydan · #16 Post by **wackydan** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:30 am

bshadfan wrote:
wackydan wrote:You can't use the X4 dock/ultrabase with the tablet either.
You can use the tablet with the X4 dock, according to IBM's webpage. I sure hope you can as I ordered one with my x41 tablet yesterday. Didn't they essentially release the x4 dock with the x41 tablet? http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/store ... d=10000001

Notes: The ThinkPad X4 Dock is compatible with all ThinkPad X40 Series systems, including the ThinkPad X41 tablet.
Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.

My bad... I'm used to folks calling the Ultrabase a dock as well.

#17 Post by **BillMorrow** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:11 am

without reading ALL this thread...
the X41 Tablet does NOT share the same batteries or X4 base with the X41..

i have pictures..

i'll find them and post them, soon..

(EDIT: OK, found some pics, sorry for crappy quality. I put them in: Pictures of your ThinkPad & desk setup)

the tablet has a slightly larger footprint..
the battery is "split" to accomodate the swivel hinge..
the stylus is stored under the palmrest on the left front edge..
the display is slightly taller to accomodate some buttons, the hinge and so forth..

all in all a super little thinkpad model..

AND, yes, it IS an IBM Thinkpad..

X41 Tablet specs don't add up

X41 Tablet specs don't add up

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