another 1802 problem, but with an authorized card

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richarddd · #1 Post by **richarddd** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:02 pm

I just bought an IBM 11 a/b/g wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II (73P4301) for my x31, model 2672. According to IBM's web site: http://tinyurl.com/8tueh
the card is compatible with the machine. When I boot, I get error message 1802 - remove network minipci card. This message usually means you're using an unauthorized card, but it's a genuine IBM (lenovo?) card. The machine is a CTO, by the way.

Easy Serve 1 says update bios - I do

Easy Serve 2 thinks I have a defective motherboard or a defective card. The machine has otherwise works fine. If there was a problem with the card, I'd think it wouldn't boot, rather than giving the error message. Nonetheless, they'll send a new card. I have my doubts, but you never know.

Any ideas?

bhtooefr · #2 Post by **bhtooefr** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:49 am

Defective card, wrong card (as in, someone thought it was one card, but it was another), defective mobo, or dirty contacts.

Defective things work REALLY weirdly - you can't always predict their behavior. Not a computer, but one example of this weird behavior is a truck that we once had. Plug a Motorola i50sx into a charger in it's cigarette lighter, and the wipers would run. No other cell phone did that to it.

FWIW, when I had a Mini-PCI problem, it gave me a resource conflict between the network and modem (I have the 3com combo card).

richarddd · #3 Post by **richarddd** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:55 am

Could be defective. Contacts look clean.

It's brand new with the right FRU number, so unlikely to be the wrong card.

EasyServe at first said the card wasn't compatible; when I pointed them to the web site, first level support asked second level support who reported the card was compatible.

I hope it's not a defective mobo, especially since the mobo otherwise seems fine. They're sending me a new card, so we'll see if that helps.

Glad to hear a defective card could generate 1802, so that's at least a possiblity.

bhtooefr · #4 Post by **bhtooefr** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:12 pm

Could also be that they were wrong, and your card ISN'T supported...

richarddd · #5 Post by **richarddd** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:51 pm

That's my primary guess.

The web sales page seems the main source of the info that it is compatible. The normal support database says no (according to phone support) and tabook does not list the card under x31 2672, while listing it for x32 and x40 models.

Only when I point to the sales page and talk about returning the card does phone support insist that it is supported.

I wish there were a way to get a definitive answer.

At this point, I'll wait until another card shows up (with luck tomorrow), try it and then, probably, spend some more quality time with easyserve.

richarddd · #6 Post by **richarddd** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:00 pm

They didn't ship, due to some glitch at their end. Said they'd ship today. Call today, seems to be another glitch. They are now promising to ship version I of the card to arrive Monday,

There doesn't seem to be much of a difference between I and II, is there?

Even though they swear II is compatible with an X31, I seems more compatible

nik · #7 Post by **nik** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:25 pm

fwiw, I just replaced an Intel 2200bg card with a 2915abg card in an X32 and got the 1802 error, even though the latter card is listed in the tabook for my model (2884). I disabled the new card in BIOS, ran no-1802.com, and reenabled the card, and now it works just fine.

richarddd · #8 Post by **richarddd** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:44 pm

Does the wifi light work? Can you switch on/off with fn-F5?

nik · #9 Post by **nik** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:59 pm

richarddd wrote:Does the wifi light work? Can you switch on/off with fn-F5?

Interestingly, the little LED antenna light no longer works (it worked with the 2200bg), but the fn/F5 combo still brings up the same wifi stuff. I tried reinstalling Access Connections, hoping that would bring back the wifi light, but no such luck. Anyone know how I can get the LED back?

richarddd · #10 Post by **richarddd** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:32 pm

From much reading, you can't get it back if you're using an "unauthorized" card.

richarddd · #11 Post by **richarddd** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:14 pm

Also, make sure you have the latest BIOS.

ragefury32 · #12 Post by **ragefury32** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:34 pm

Holy crap. I just got the 1802 with the 73P4301 card for my X31 (2672-C2U) as well. Okay. Someone needs to have a serious exchange of ideas with the Lenovo techs regarding whether it works...or not. And I hope that this one involves a new BIOS version with an extra entry in the card whitelist. I don't mind pulling the no-1802 route, but that antenna light is helpful and should be supported.

richarddd · #13 Post by **richarddd** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:03 pm

I had many extended conversations with many EZ Serve techs. The conclusions were (1) the card works with an X31 2672 and (2) no it doesn't. In the end, they sent me the 1st generation a/b/g adaptor (31P9701), which works fine.

I sometimes wonder why the a/b/g II adaptor is $45 and the a/b/g I adaptor is $99.

whickman · #14 Post by **whickman** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:40 pm

I have been trying to locate no-1802.com on the Web, even through Google and Google Groups, and have had no luck. The one link given in several sources is no longer active. Does anyone have a current link or, perhaps, the file they would be willing to send to me? Thanks!

Yes, I ordered the 73P4301 ThinkPad 11a/b/g wireless LAN miniPCI adapter II and the X31 says it is unauthorized. The BIOS is current. Sigh. The things we have to do ...

nik · #15 Post by **nik** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:56 pm

Looks like http://jcnp.pku.edu.cn/~shadow/1802/ is down. Try this:

http://www.congenio.de/infos/no1802.com

whickman · #16 Post by **whickman** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:32 pm

One more question ... Do I boot to DOS in XP and run the program (if there is such a thing as DOS on XP)? Or do I put the downloaded file no-1802.com on a diskette and boot to run it?

richarddd · #17 Post by **richarddd** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:38 pm

A danger with no-1802.com is that IBM revises the cmos/controller/bios so that no-1802 no longer works.

You might try EZ Serve. If nothing else, it might encourage them to get the BIOS revised.

EDIT: clarify

richarddd · #18 Post by **richarddd** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:38 pm

whickman wrote:One more question ... Do I boot to DOS in XP and run the program (if there is such a thing as DOS on XP)? Or do I put the downloaded file no-1802.com on a diskette and boot to run it?

On a bootable diskette.

whickman · #19 Post by **whickman** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:47 pm

Most feedback is that no-1802 works, but I don't know how else to approach the problem. Most posters to this forum say it has worked. It's a gamble, but ... I don't know what else to do.

And what is EZ Serve? Is this a Web site? Program? Thanks ...

richarddd · #20 Post by **richarddd** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:34 pm

EZ Serve is Thinkpad warranty repair. The failure of the card to work with an X31 seems to be a warranty problem.

Regarding possible issues with 1802:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=14328

ragefury32 · #21 Post by **ragefury32** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

richarddd wrote:A danger with no-1802.com is that they revise the cmos/controller/bios so that it no longer works.

You might try EZ Serve. If nothing else, it might encourage them to get the BIOS revised.

Wait. no-1802.com will prevent you from getting into the BIOS and changing things? That's majorly bad news!

Although the alternative (hacking the BIOS card whitelist) is even riskier. Did anyone have first-hand experience with this procedure?

richarddd · #22 Post by **richarddd** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:17 am

I meant that IBM revises something so that no-1802 no longer works.

I'm not saying 1802 has any harmful effects, just that it might not work with future versions of the bios, etc. See the link in my prior post to someone with a new T series who said no-1802 didn't work.

LenovoIBM2008 · #23 Post by **LenovoIBM2008** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:00 pm

DOWNLOAD SITE: http://jcnp.pku.edu.cn/~shadow/1802/no-1802.com

need running in DOS

1.create a Dos starting Floppy disk
2.put this files in to starting DOS Floppy dick
3.run no-1802.com / no-1802com

I fix it

by the way anyone knows which version of Centrino Hardware Control can support notebook FAN control on IBM X31

thanks

another 1802 problem, but with an authorized card

another 1802 problem, but with an authorized card

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