But since linux with reiserfs accesses the disk approximately every seven seconds it became a big problem.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how to change the disk writing interval in windows. I even don't know if this is possible.
The screen had two small areas on the upper left where the color wasn't full - as if someone had pushed their finger too hard into the screen.
IBM checked, it was under warranty and this was a known defect. They sent a box and returned the computer within two days!
So I now have a different screen and it looks perfect.
All the data on my hard drive is as it was, and I have no reason to think they changed drives.
But the clicking is gone. I hear normal (low level) seek noise and perhaps an occasional click - but it's minor, infrequent, and at a much lower decible level. I've no idea how this apparent miracle occurred.
The repair action report says:
Bios/Embedded Controller updates prescribed on IBM support page were performed on your machine to ensure reliability and performance efficiency.
HD tune says gives a burst rate of 58.8 and an access time of 20.5 - average transfer is 15.9
Quick error scan showed no damage
The drive is totally silent when running Linux; clicks like mad when running Windows. The clicking noise is caused when the head is parked.
I don't know whether it's the Windows SATA power management driver or the IBM Active Protection System driver that causes the frequent head parking, but it's definitely been programmed to deliberately park the head often, and probably as a damage-avoidance technique. But the clicky noise drives me insane!! Can't someone design a drive that can park its head silently?
1) Ticking will not damage the drive.
2) It ticks when head parks.
3) Its not connected with the hdd cache.
4) Parking the head frequently make our data more secure on a laptop.
and here what I didn't understand:
1) let's say parking the head every 3-6 sec. is good when I'm in the car, why it does it when the laptop is on my desk (laptop has active protection and sense it when laptop is experiencing small shocks)???
-my theory says: because it makes the laptop more reliable when it parks the head frequently since it doesn't reduce the life time and performance. and the reliability is more important than ticking. So they decided to make the hdd park frequently. That’s why problem with ticks are more noticeable with table X41s, as a table pc they will experience much more shocks and require more head parking. If this theory is true, then they can make the Thinkpads change their parking policy according to the environment which will be a software upgrade. Of course if they care that ticks are annoying thinkpad users and in future use only hdds that don’t tick when they park.
What do you think about this theory?
T41 2373-3HG, RAM upgraded to 1.5 GB, HDD upgraded to 80 GB.
I used Hitachi's live chat feature earlier today to talk with one of their reps:
emmzee: Hi! I have a Hitachi Travelstar C4K60 in my LG T1 notebook. I was wondering if there is any danger in turning Advanced Power Management off using Hitachi's Feature Tool?
emmzee: ie, chance of data loss/corruption etc
Chris: There is no danger in turning that function off, but you may ill need to let the drive spin down occasionally to stay cool.
I downloaded, burned & ran Hitachi's "Feature Tool" to try to turn off Advanced Power Management (which it shows as "Enabled") but unfortunately the software will not allow me to change that setting. So it looks like the plunking will stay for now ...
I also tried running Notebook Hardware Control (formerly "Centrino Hardware Control") and played with the Advanced Power Settings, but the only options are 1, 128, 192 & 254 ... none of which stop the plunking since there's no "OFF" option.
Its not a big issue but its irritating since the rest of this laptop is so quiet ... whats the point of having quiet fans, hd etc when it makes a plunking noise every 5-10 seconds?
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it seems that this afflicts various notebooks without any explanation..
for instance i had this happen on a new thinkpad 600E some years ago..
and on thinkpads at various (rare) times since then..
now we have someone with a non-thinkpad notebook complaining about this clicking..
this suggests to me it is most likely either a controller issue or a HDD issue..
if the HDD is parking the heads every few seconds that sure sounds counter-intuitive to fast data throughput if the heads are spending their time parked on those little ramps and far away from the data areas..
there have been many many theories as to the source of this noise..
i don't recall many of them..
all i CAN say is it should not be happening and if i had a machine HDD combination that WAS doing this now i would swap the drive to see if the noise stays with the drive or laptop..
happy computing guys..
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http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-62282
Sorry to ask such a dumb question, but how did you manage to install that update you are talking about? It is written that it should be installed from bootable CD. Also, it is written that the update does contain new firmware for TC4260xxG9AT00.
I've got no ultrabay or even usb cd-rom drive, so I use dvd on my second pc via network.
On the other hand, I have just taken a look at the CD created by burning the iso. Its main update program (fw.exe) can be run in a DOS-box from Windows, so you could try to execute it over the network. But I have no idea if it will actually flash your hard drive that way - I suppose there is a reason why they specified a bootable CD...
It's quite strange that they don't mention any alternative way to install the update, given that X41 doesn't contain built-in optical drive.
Actually, this is what they say in the update's annotation:
Do you have any idea if ultrabay for T4x models supports X41 as well?The hard drive firmware update utility bootable CD does not support USB optical disc drives, PCMCIA/CardBUS optical disc drives, optical disc drives in a docking station bay, or any other drives other than the optical disc drive in the ThinkPad UltraBay. Other drives will not be updated correctly by this firmware update utility.
So I was bored today and decided to try and install this on my tablet.
Here is how I got it installed:
1. Download firmware ISO and extract the contents to a USB key(using Winrar or whatever)
2. boot up with floppy disk(using USB floppy drive) to DOS(I used my trusty Win98 DOS custom bootdisk). Make sure the USB key is plugged in too.
3. Go to C:\, which will be the USBkey and run fw.exe
The program will load and detect the harddisk. Follow instructions to install firmware.
I didnt try booting from the USB key itself but I imagine it would work fine.
I probably wont be able to test the results until next week when Im at school. I'll post back and let you know if I notice a difference. If you install this firmware, do the same
i was also trying to find out what's the cause of this clicking and here's what i've found on fujitsu website:
Q: When I turn my computer on, I hear a rattling sound from the disk drive at various times when there should be no drive activity. What is this?
A: This could also be the operating system performing background tasks such as cache updating, disk diagnostics etc...
Also if the drive is idle it will automatically move the heads periodically to prevent lubricant migration.
Old drives required thermal recalibration but it is unnecessary for current hard disk drives with self compensating embedded servo.
Thermal calibration compensates for mechanical expansion due to temperature rise inside the PC cabinet. The rattling sound heard is the predefined routine taking place.
This process is automatically interupted when a command is received from the host resuming once the command is complete. The maximum time therefore that the host will ever wait for the drive to respond is 100 milliseconds.
I'll read the rest of the thread, and run some drive tests. If this continues, does IBM/Levonvo seem to be replacing the drives?
My mouse keys also feel a bit mushy, not like on my T42, and T43
was that the HD AOLO updateyongke wrote:Hello everyone, just to let yall know that my tablet had stopped clicking !!!!! Try installing the new driver update that had just became available. Hurray!!!
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