Think we will ever see the X go widescreen?

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Think we will ever see the X go widescreen?

#1 Post by devilsrejection » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:30 pm

I ask because an 11 inch widescreen seems perfect

X60: 10.5" x 8.3" x .83 - 1.39" (width x depth x thickness)
X60s: 10.5" x 8.3" x .83 - 1.11" (width x depth x thickness)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EV ... 15?ie=UTF8

Sony VAIO VGN-TX770P:

10.7 x 7.7 x 1.1 inches (w x d x h)

the important thing here is the width, the same keyboard from the current x series can be used!

maybe i'm dreaming, but who here would want such a thinkpad?

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Re: Think we will ever see the X go widescreen?

#2 Post by JHEM » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:55 pm

devilsrejection wrote:maybe i'm dreaming, but who here would want such a thinkpad?
BION, I'm looking forward to one!

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#3 Post by bigtiger » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:01 pm

This sony one looks very cool. Do not know its build quality. The keyboard looks like an iBook. Very stylish.

Anybody got any experience? I would like to the reliability of it. I have some experience with a Sony Vaio. Very unstable. The shell is very flimsy.
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#4 Post by devilsrejection » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:32 pm

Sony Viao's are all looks, zero quality, hence the creation of the thread, hoping Lenovo creates a similar form factor.

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#5 Post by christopher_wolf » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:39 pm

I have used a Vaio nearly exactly the same as the model in that auction; I can say that that Vaios keyboard will, within a 95% probability, suck bigtime. The key travel is minimal and is more abut making it look thin and a pastel white; it also doesn't help yo have a touchpad that has about as much "stiction" and texture as glass does on that Vaio. The chassis on that Vaio isn't bad, but it isn't great either and it is *no picnic* if you are used to the easy access of internals that you get on the Thinkpads.

To me, for everything but the form factor, that Vaio is seriously over-priced (as most Vaios tend to be; the smaller you get, the "cuter" and more expensive you get when it comes to the Vaios.)
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#6 Post by bigtiger » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:46 pm

christopher_wolf wrote:To me, for everything but the form factor, that Vaio is seriously over-priced (as most Vaios tend to be; the smaller you get, the "cuter" and more expensive you get when it comes to the Vaios.)
Glad to know. I see few creations from Sony. Most Sony stuff are heavily over-priced yet the quality is only mediocre, if not bad.

Based on the above statement, I would say Sony is more like a Compaq these days. A compaq computer is the last brand that I would buy. What a nightmare.
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#7 Post by devilsrejection » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:50 pm

this isn't a lenovo vs sony vs compaq thread lol

this thread is about peoples views on a different form factor for the x series. period.

so like i asked, would you guys like such a form factor or not?

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#8 Post by bigtiger » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:14 pm

Short version: I would like that form factor PERIOD.

Long version:
The X40 serves me well. I do not expect any keyboard shorter than the current one. About depth, I am not sure. A little bit shorter might be fine (ie. wide screen).

Note: I once saw my Boss has a very small toshiba that is only 1.8 pound. Build quality is very good. I forgot about the form factor but it is not wide screen.
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#9 Post by christopher_wolf » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:23 pm

devilsrejection wrote: so like i asked, would you guys like such a form factor or not?
Read my post again
christopher_wolf wrote: To me, for everything but the form factor, that Vaio is seriously over-priced
Hence, I wouldn't mind an X-Series in that form-factor but I doubt it is going to happen soon. IBM/Lenovo would probably come up with a sub-series for it first, and then proceed with it. :)
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#10 Post by asiafish » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:50 pm

For an ultraportable I prefer the current standard ratio. I have a widescreen MacBook and love it, but that one has a 13" screen, which has about 1/3 of an inch less verticle height than the 12.1" on my X41. For many projects the extra width really helps, allowing the display of two documents side-by-side, but once it gets smaller than the 13.3" 1280X800 screen on the MacBook, I believe verticle area would suffer too much.

When I work on the widescreen, I tend to multitask more on account of the width. When I'm on my ThinkPad I tend to focus more on single tasks, and enjoy the larger view of what I'm doing. For writing I've often iimagined a display that tilts to vertical and then slides to center, giving a small laptop a portrait display, allowing the display of a complete page with a large-enough font to read it all. Too many obtacles to making it work on a small laptop, though a large laptop could work with the entire machine in portrait orientation. Imagine a machine as wide as the X-series, but the same overall dimension as a 15" T series, only its far deeper than it is wide. It'll never happen.

Based on reality, I hope they keeping on making X-series in the conventional form factor. When I'm travelling, there is just nothing better.
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#11 Post by christopher_wolf » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:54 pm

asiafish wrote:For an ultraportable I prefer the current standard ratio. I have a widescreen MacBook and love it, but that one has a 13" screen, which has about 1/3 of an inch less verticle height than the 12.1" on my X41. For many projects the extra width really helps, allowing the display of two documents side-by-side, but once it gets smaller than the 13.3" 1280X800 screen on the MacBook, I believe verticle area would suffer too much.

When I work on the widescreen, I tend to multitask more on account of the width. When I'm on my ThinkPad I tend to focus more on single tasks, and enjoy the larger view of what I'm doing. For writing I've often iimagined a display that tilts to vertical and then slides to center, giving a small laptop a portrait display, allowing the display of a complete page with a large-enough font to read it all. Too many obtacles to making it work on a small laptop, though a large laptop could work with the entire machine in portrait orientation. Imagine a machine as wide as the X-series, but the same overall dimension as a 15" T series, only its far deeper than it is wide. It'll never happen.

Based on reality, I hope they keeping on making X-series in the conventional form factor. When I'm travelling, there is just nothing better.
Yup, excellent form factor the way they have it right now. Vertical height should probably be kept the same. :D

Also, Lenovo had a tech demo with a future X Series Thinkpad that could do something very similar to the screen tilt-then-translate feature. :)
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#12 Post by asiafish » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:57 pm

That I would buy. I don't care so much about speed, but ore on portability, battery life and ergonomics. Portrait screen would be a real productivity boost for me.
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#13 Post by pianowizard » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:43 pm

I would welcome X series with 12" WXGA screens, for two reasons. First, there would be more pixels (1280x800 vs. 1024x768), so I can view more details. Second, the machine would probably be not as deep as the current versions (i.e. shorter along the y axis), so it would be easier to use on a plane, especially when the person in front leans back his/her seat. The Dell Latitude X1 is such a machine, and is even lighter than the X40, so I seriously considered buying it, but decided to get the X40 instead because Yak was selling one for an attractive price and because I had enjoyed using IBM laptops more than Dell ones.
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