So the T series is going wide screen, what about the X?

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devilsrejection · #1 Post by **devilsrejection** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:12 pm

Just asking if anyone heard anything or I'm just talking out of my [censored].

semaj · #2 Post by **semaj** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:08 pm

to keep the small size i do not know why they would. I think the x series is already small enough that the widescreen wouldnt be that benificial. the main push for the widescreen laptops is for business travelers. When they are on airplanes they have more room to work on thier laptop when the chair in front is so close. sounds petty but thats what i have been told. just my 2 cents

asiafish · #3 Post by **asiafish** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:52 pm

Nothing petty about it when your on a 13 hour flight and the inconsiderate dweeb in front of you has the nerve to recline. That was the main reason I got rid of my T42p, and even on the tiny X41 its still a problem.

semaj · #4 Post by **semaj** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:06 pm

thus ibm's reason for the widescreen z series. although i think i would prefer the x series over the z series when it comes to lap real estate on a plane.

asiafish · #5 Post by **asiafish** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:07 pm

Z series with the widesceen is still taller than X series, so not a suitable airplane machine.

gearguy · #6 Post by **gearguy** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:25 am

semaj wrote:to keep the small size i do not know why they would. I think the x series is already small enough that the widescreen wouldnt be that benificial. the main push for the widescreen laptops is for business travelers. When they are on airplanes they have more room to work on thier laptop when the chair in front is so close. sounds petty but thats what i have been told. just my 2 cents

What?

Widescreen is very beneficial to size issues.

Think about the shape of a keyboard, now in thinkpad tradition their is no trackpad under the keyboard, so you'd be able to get away with just having a smaller screen the same size as the keyboard a la Toshiba Libretto

semaj · #7 Post by **semaj** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:58 am

making the keyboard full size, i like that.

#8 Post by **tomh009** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:49 pm

semaj wrote:making the keyboard full size, i like that.

Hmmm ... a 1280x800 13" wide-format screen -- just a bit wider, but not as deep, with a full-size keyboard. Yea!

Where can I place my order?

semaj · #9 Post by **semaj** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:57 pm

nice
i like
trade you my dell c600
ha

asiafish · #10 Post by **asiafish** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:32 pm

tomh009 wrote:
semaj wrote:making the keyboard full size, i like that.
Hmmm ... a 1280x800 13" wide-format screen -- just a bit wider, but not as deep, with a full-size keyboard. Yea!

Where can I place my order? :)

www.apple.com

Its called a MacBook.

semaj · #11 Post by **semaj** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:40 pm

macs mac a quality operating system and quality laptops. if i were to rate laptop vendors

IBM
APPLE
DELL(business laptops)
Toshiba
HP etc

#12 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:13 am

asiafish wrote:Its called a MacBook.

The MacBook is nice and all that, and the form factor is right.

But I don't want a MacBook, I want a ThinkPad. I want the ThinkPad design rather than the Apple style, I want the build quality -- and I want the TrackPoint, not a touchpad with a single button. Wouldn't buy a notebook without it.

#13 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:15 am

asiafish wrote:Z series with the widesceen is still taller than X series, so not a suitable airplane machine.

Right. It's 20% taller, 30% wider, and almost twice as thick and heavy as the x60. It's definitely not an alternative to the X series.

bigtiger · #14 Post by **bigtiger** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:14 am

Rumors have it that Lenovo will ditch the Z line. Is that true? Seems that few ThinkPad fans like a Z laptop.

#15 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:32 am

bigtiger wrote:Rumors have it that Lenovo will ditch the Z line. Is that true? Seems that few ThinkPad fans like a Z laptop.

I think the Z is really too clunky to be a ThinkPad. It feels like an Inspiron ...

snife · #16 Post by **snife** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:45 am

The Z series has fans simply because it is a widescreen ThinkPad - once there are widescreen Ts, there will be no Z series fans IMHO.

Do not expect a widescreen X series for a while (I think X70 or whatever if will be called by then, probably more than 18 months away).

My main fear is that when they go widescreen with X is that there will not be a 4:3 option which is my preference.

MobileGuru · #17 Post by **MobileGuru** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:20 am

I would think that Z would die once the T6 comes in widescreen version, because it's no longer required at that point.

MG.

teetee · #18 Post by **teetee** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:40 am

gearguy wrote:
What?

Widescreen is very beneficial to size issues.

Think about the shape of a keyboard, now in thinkpad tradition their is no trackpad under the keyboard, so you'd be able to get away with just having a smaller screen the same size as the keyboard a la Toshiba Libretto

Even without the touchpad, I believe I still need the mouse buttons and enough room under keyboard for the palmrest which makes the current X series nearly perfect. As matter of fact I would like to have a even smaller screensize laptop with optical drive built-in, say like 10.4" panasonic R5+DVD burner built-in+trackpoint+IBM keyboard. I really don't see the benefit of widescreen LCD except when it comes to widescreen movie playing and some website browsing.

Besides my current laptop sleeve will be too small for a widescreen laptop to fit in.

#19 Post by **tomh009** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:04 pm

teetee wrote:I really don't see the benefit of widescreen LCD except when it comes to widescreen movie playing and some website browsing.

I'd love to have 1280x800 widescreen for Photoshop -- it would allow me to have the tool palettes on side of the screen and still have full screen area for photo editing (3:2 aspect ratio photos, too).

Would also be nice for the side-by-side three-column preview view in Outlook and Thunderbird.

leesiulung · #20 Post by **leesiulung** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:34 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

They are making a widescreen T series. I can't stand widescreen as computer screens... I hope they don't get rid of the normal 4:3 fullscreen.

Didn't they discontinue the Z series due to lack of interrest? Isn't that a sign that one should not mess with the T series and certainly not the X series.

IBM was and currently is one of the few remaining brands left that makes full screen laptops. Almost everyone I know prefer the full screen over the widescreen laptop... not sure what the appeal is other than on airplanes... To each its own I guess....

sugo · #21 Post by **sugo** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:47 pm

leesiulung wrote:Didn't they discontinue the Z series due to lack of interrest?

At least in US, Lenovo has not discontinued the Z series.

pianowizard · #22 Post by **pianowizard** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:57 pm

teetee wrote:I really don't see the benefit of widescreen LCD

Plenty, besides watching movies. Seeing more columns in a spreadsheet, easier to view two pages of a Word document, or two Word documents or web browsers side by side, the display lid being slightly shorter (when compared with a 4:3 screen with a comparable number of pixels) so it's easier to use on a tray table on a plane, etc. For me, viewing two documents/programs/web browsers side by side is the biggest advantage of widescreens.

I admit that I still find a 4:3 screen more natural to look at, just because I have spent most of my life using such screens. But when I am actually working at a computer, I realize the advantages of widescreen displays.

sugo · #23 Post by **sugo** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:10 pm

Most 12.1" widescreen laptops out there offer 1280x768 or 1280x800 resolutions. That's higher than the 1024x768 in current X series.

Isn't higher resolution a lot of people were asking for?

#24 Post by **tomh009** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:01 am

pianowizard wrote:Plenty, besides watching movies. Seeing more columns in a spreadsheet, easier to view two pages of a Word document, or two Word documents or web browsers side by side, the display lid being slightly shorter (when compared with a 4:3 screen with a comparable number of pixels) so it's easier to use on a tray table on a plane, etc. For me, viewing two documents/programs/web browsers side by side is the biggest advantage of widescreens.

... or being able to display the Photoshop toolbars to the side of a 3:2 aspect ratio digital photo.

So the T series is going wide screen, what about the X?

So the T series is going wide screen, what about the X?

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