X41 Tablet HDD Upgrade Questions

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Kamika007z · #1 Post by **Kamika007z** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:59 am

Hello All,

I searched the forum but did not find any direct response to this question: What type of hard drive does the X41 Tablet use? I wish to upgrade it's drive to a 100GB (and faster rpm, if possible), but do not know if it is SATA of IDE?

Please let me know.

Also, are there any known issues with upgrading to a newer drive?

Thank you!

brainpicker · #2 Post by **brainpicker** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:12 pm

The tablet uses the same drives as the X41 and X40. They are 1.8" ATA/IDE drives, and only those made by Hitachi in the Travelstar C4K60 line which max out at 60GB. All are 4200rpm. I hope that answers your question.

By the way, if you don't mind having part of your hard drive sticking out of the laptop you can use a regular 2.5" laptop drive and get the speed and capacity you desire. It's not practical for travel, but around the house it's OK if you are careful (though a dock with a faster/larger drive is more practical there too).

- Yak

Kamika007z · #3 Post by **Kamika007z** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:25 am

Oh, so a 7K100 would not ideally work, since it's a 2.5" drive and would stick out?

Thanks

brainpicker · #4 Post by **brainpicker** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:52 pm

Kamika007z wrote:Oh, so a 7K100 would not ideally work, since it's a 2.5" drive and would stick out?

Thanks

You are correct.

What size drive do you have now? I think I have an almost new 60GB model around here that I could sell you if interested. Send me an e-mail if interested.

-Yak

boon · #5 Post by **boon** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:44 pm

If you really want a 100gb badly:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3386

I think it may be the only hard drive you can get but beware, these can be very pricey.

Kamika007z · #6 Post by **Kamika007z** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:01 am

Thank you both for the responses.

My client, who actually owns a X41 has the 60GB drive.

Thanks again. I will look into the "MK1011GAH" drive.

pianowizard · #7 Post by **pianowizard** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:21 pm

How many kinds of 1.8" HDDs are there? I used to have a Toshiba Portege R100 and an IBM X40, and their 1.8" drives looked very different.

#8 Post by **draco2527** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:11 pm

boon wrote:If you really want a 100gb badly:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3386

I think it may be the only hard drive you can get but beware, these can be very pricey.

The 1.8" stated above WILL NOT WORK, here is a picture:

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/20 ... mg0504.jpg

The X41's ARE 1.8" BUT they are a different kind of animal and I have only seen them on the ThinkPad line...here is a picture of ours with a TWIST!! The EXTERNAL dimensions (enclosure) will make up the current "standard" 1.8" drive used in iPod's, external "slim" HD's and a ton of other things.... BUT if you look closely at the SILVER AREA, this is OUR HD, that is what our ThinkPad's have, they are not by definition a "standard" 1.8" HDD

http://www.tomshw.it/guides/storage/200 ... 0-pers.jpg

and a pic without the "enclosure":

http://www.xcomputer.cz/ImageWrite.asp?CO=FD604&FL=1

Here is a picture of a "TRUE" 1.8" HDD next to a 2.5" for comparison:

http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/04/ ... drives.jpg

OK....

Here are the dimensions on the X41 1.8" HDD:

54 x 70 x 7.0mm

and a pic of the dimensions of a "STANDARD" 1.8" and 2.5" HDD:

http://dynabook.com/pc/catalog/ss/02102 ... es/hdd.gif

OUR X41's 1.8" HDD are 70mm wide JUST like a standard 2.5" HDD, a standard 1.8" is 54mm Wide...so the X41's HDD is a 1.8" HDD with the CONNECTOR/INTERFACE on the side!! Can anyone say....SOL!!!

seneca · #9 Post by **seneca** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:53 am

Mmm, I know, that [censored] connector is a real pain.

I mean, sure, same connector as the 2.5" hdds, nice. But when IBM does this as the only manufacturer, and no one else follows suit. - It hurts us as consumers.

There are no other [1.8"] hdds out there that uses the standard ATA 100 interface, they all use the "Zero Input Force" ZIF connector.

brainpicker · #10 Post by **brainpicker** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:44 pm

Someone should design a plastic cap to cover/protect that part of the 2.5" drive I'll have sticking out of the front of my X4x laptop when I can't buy a 1.8" replacement anymore.

Of course it must be black!

A big black zit on my X41t... just like the "zit" these 1.8" drives turned out to be for Lenovo!

- Yak

pianowizard · #11 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:47 pm

brainpicker wrote:Someone should design a plastic cap to cover/protect that part of the 2.5" drive I'll have sticking out of the front of my X4x laptop when I can't buy a 1.8" replacement anymore.

Many layers of black electrical tape would do it!

seneca · #12 Post by **seneca** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:20 am

pianowizard wrote:
brainpicker wrote:Someone should design a plastic cap to cover/protect that part of the 2.5" drive I'll have sticking out of the front of my X4x laptop when I can't buy a 1.8" replacement anymore.
Many layers of black electrical tape would do it!

*LOL* It might work though

CreativeBR · #13 Post by **CreativeBR** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:52 pm

Have someone tried to plug an 2.5" HD in a X41T?

I tried with a Travelstar 7k100 and booted from an usb pendrive.

Every HD software that i tried didnt find anything connected to the IDE port...8(

#14 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:07 pm

If you are running XP Tablet edition, you need to have a copy of the Product Recovery Discs or a backup that you can restore to the new hard drive to retain the tablet features of the OS.

Microsoft wrote:Q1: Where can I purchase a copy of Windows XP Tablet PC Edition?

A1: Because Windows XP Tablet PC Edition has specific hardware requirements, it can only be obtained pre-installed on a Tablet PC computer. You cannot buy Windows XP Tablet PC Edition separately.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327160

CreativeBR · #15 Post by **CreativeBR** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:46 pm

I have tried everything that i know and could not make the X41T recognize a 7k100 HD connected direct to it (replacing the original 1.8" one).

I guess nobody did it before... I didnt find just one case where it have been done.

So my 7k100 is resting on the tablet 8(

Ziborium · #16 Post by **Ziborium** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:34 am

Hi there!

Having my X41 tablet running faster by using a 2,5" hdd sounds like a very acceptable solution to me.

I checked the data sheets of the 1,8" C4K60 (p. 28 )

http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib. ... C_spec.pdf

and of the 2,5" T7K100 (p. 36)

http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib. ... _sp1.3.pdf

and compared the signal definitions (pins).

There are two differences: Pin 32 and the power supply. The C4K60 goes with 5 or 3,3 V power supply the T7K100 one only with 5 V.

I assume the X41 tablet uses 3,3 V to save battery.

My Idea is to bypass from the USB-port which provides 5 V and connect from there to Pin 41 and 42 of a T7K100.

For I'm no expert, is anybody out there who can tell me, if this could be working? Or might I kill my tablet by doing that?

Ziborium

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