Returning my last Thinkpad...well maybe not !

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#1 Post by **aamsel** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:48 pm

Posting this in the T series forum as well, since I am also returning a T42 XGA.
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Well, unfortunately, it just didn't work out.
I am returning the LAST Thinkpad that I will EVER return.
No more.
The bottom line is:
They are wonderfully built, very solid, great keyboards, good company.
But...
the screens are just not acceptable to me.
Perhaps this is because I insist on a standard XGA display (although I did see a poor SXGA+ display on a 14.1" Thinkpad as well.)
I love the fact that they will keep their value well, but...
I would rather have a notebook that I really enjoyed than have one that will keep its value.
A display is too important a factor on a notebook to settle for one as bad as the ones I have seen on Thinkpads in the past couple months.
Unfortunately, it has cost me a good bit of shipping dollars, since IBM would not refund the 2 DAY AIR shipping charge and I had to pay return shipping on each unit, and there have been several (or more).
I have really tried, I want a really well-built unit like the Thinkpads are, but I need a good XGA display as well.
Something 14.1" or smaller and preferably not glossy.

Andrew
Austin, TX[/b]

plucky duck · #2 Post by **plucky duck** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:29 am

What was bad about the displays that you've tried? Bad contrast? Not bright enough?

Maybe my eyes are getting so bad that I can hardly notice a difference among laptops

#3 Post by **aamsel** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:33 am

Contrast for one. Viewing angles were virtually non-existent. Move the display 1/2" and it washes out, or turns toward black or white.
For me, unusable in any enjoyable way.

Andrew
Austin, TX

plucky duck wrote:What was bad about the displays that you've tried? Bad contrast? Not bright enough?

Maybe my eyes are getting so bad that I can hardly notice a difference among laptops

#4 Post by **aamsel** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:28 am

Update:

However... the X31 screen was far better than the T42 XGA screen.
The T42 XGA was totally unacceptable, no way I would use it.
I am still considering keeping the X31, even as I have it boxed up for return.
Even though the screen on it falls below my expectations, I am still weighing the many positives of the X31 against the negative of the display.

Andrew
Austin, TX

leesiulung · #5 Post by **leesiulung** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:49 am

aamsel wrote:Contrast for one. Viewing angles were virtually non-existent. Move the display 1/2" and it washes out, or turns toward black or white.
For me, unusable in any enjoyable way.

Andrew
Austin, TX

I never noticed any of those symptoms you are talking about on my X31. The screen is bright and clear. The viewing angle is excellent out to about 140 degrees. I have also seen the T40 series, and noticed that the screen is not as bright and maybe slightly washed out comparably to the X31, but its viewing angle is about the same.

If you are trying to compare the screens to the Sony and Dells equivalent of Xbrite etc... then you are out of luck. I think they are cathered to different markets... those bright shiny screens look good, but seem to make my eyes tired very quickly. I think it is due to the combination of the glare and the annoying problem of seeing stuff in the background on my screen. As far as I know, I think the only difference between normal LCD and those Xbrite LCD's are the coating they put on it... but correct me if I am wrong...

#6 Post by **aamsel** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:58 am

You are correct.

Now if someone could please tell me why the X31 I have here does not appear in TABOOK ???

It is model # 26735KU

I have done Yahoo searches and come up with such crazy hits as:
"Custom ESTEE LAUDER" on ecost.com for it (although they dont have it in stock). Three resellers that don't have it in stock actually list it that way (Estee Lauder).

Could someone please explain???

Thanks,
Andrew
Austin, TX

JHEM · #7 Post by **JHEM** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:48 am

http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... Entry.y=10

Regards,

James

#8 Post by **aamsel** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 1:20 pm

Thanks!
I was aware that it appeared on IBM's site, just wondering why a "custom" model that doesn't appear in TABOOK is listed as a regular item on IBM's site?

More importantly, I am trying hard to stay with a Thinkpad.
Today is the last day I have to work out a "deal" (mainly to convince myself that I am satisfied).

My main concern, looking at pricing for the X Series, is that this model is too expensive for what it is.

I posted specifics on this in another thread:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=5905

I could really use yours (or anyone's) assistance knowing if there are better X31 deals to be had right now.

Thanks a lot!!

Andrew
Austin, TX

JHEM wrote:http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... Entry.y=10

Regards,

James

JohnDrake · #9 Post by **JohnDrake** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:21 pm

The 2673-5KU is electrically equivalent to the 2672-5KU. You can find the specs here:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitu ... tabook.pdf

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#10 Post by **aamsel** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:21 pm

Thanks.

Andrew
Austin, TX

Returning my last Thinkpad...well maybe not !

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