Giving some love to my X61

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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#31 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 pm

wujstefan wrote:1/2 of my A22m is 3d printed ;) As long as it's away from heat source it'll do just fine. Not to mention there are already lots of models available on the net.

Why X60t and not X61t panels? X60t do not suffer from the common bubbling issue.

I think there was some topic on the German forum about KB mod in this model.
Glad to see someone else doing as I want to too. What printer and what parts did you use/replace.

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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#32 Post by wujstefan » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:12 pm

... and if you search for a X62 w/X60t XGA IPS panel, I'd be happy to supply one. I ave a X62 that sees _NO_ use at all.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#33 Post by fourthree » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:43 pm

NonesensE wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:37 am
If you want to go really crazy, you could try to use the 12.3" display
Did not know you could do THAT.. I never noticed the little bit of extra space the bezel. And since you mentioned 12.3, there's a UXGA panel available. That would be fantastic. It does have a touchscreen and probably need a mod to be used.

Although in retrospect somebody was likely crazy enough to suggest it anyway. Always good to have enthusiasm though!

And since you told me to feel free with the questions..
1. How active is the german forum?
2. Any fun mods for X61/X20x/X30x/Frankenpads?
wujstefan wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:12 pm
... and if you search for a X62 w/X60t XGA IPS panel, I'd be happy to supply one. I ave a X62 that sees _NO_ use at all.
Awesome offer as always but I would prefer to avoid the ME backdoor. Also, since I'm not using my thinkpads for now I don't think investing the money is worth it.

Anything bad about the X62 though?
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#34 Post by NonesensE » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:43 pm

fourthree wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:43 pm
And since you mentioned 12.3, there's a UXGA panel available. That would be fantastic. It does have a touchscreen and probably need a mod to be used.
Oh, I see I somehow forgot to mention UXGA. This is exactly what I'm planning to do. :) Although I don't need a touchscreen so I probably won't connect the touch sensor.
Although in retrospect somebody was likely crazy enough to suggest it anyway. Always good to have enthusiasm though!

And since you told me to feel free with the questions..
1. How active is the german forum?
2. Any fun mods for X61/X20x/X30x/Frankenpads?
It's pretty active, my impression is that it is quite a bit more active than this forum. I think, German folks don't use reddit and lenovo's forums as much as English speakers.

Yes, there are some fun mods. Most of them are described here, too, but often you'll find additional info on the German forum. The quadcore T6x thread for example is quite extensive. Many modding threads are in part or fully driven by el-sahef, who e.g. put a second power plug and a regular X6x fan into his X6x Tablet and who I think was the first to bring an X62 Tablet to life.
Awesome offer as always but I would prefer to avoid the ME backdoor. Also, since I'm not using my thinkpads for now I don't think investing the money is worth it.

Anything bad about the X62 though?
It's not as perfect as you would expect from Lenovo (let alone IBM), but properly set up, it works really well. Cool, quiet, powerful, small and light.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#35 Post by flyingfishfinger » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:26 pm

NonesensE wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:43 pm
Oh, I see I somehow forgot to mention UXGA.
Did you grab that one from Ebay we'd found? There's currently one up still.
NonesensE wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:43 pm
I probably won't connect the touch sensor.
I'd want it, I think. If / when you get that screen working I'll probably want to play around with the touch part of it.


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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#36 Post by NonesensE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:49 am

No, I haven't got a screen yet, I started by contacting the Lattice guys about the 4h limit and licensing fees mentioned in the user guide of the OpenLDI LVDS to MIPI DSI interface bridge.

There's a second screen in the bay still.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#37 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:52 am

@NonesensE

I doubt that a UXGA screen would work on an X61, as it only has 2 LVDS channels-- not enough bandwidth. UXGA-capable Thinkpads like the T61 have 4 LVDS channels.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#38 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:21 am

axur-delmeria wrote:@NonesensE

I doubt that a UXGA screen would work on an X61, as it only has 2 LVDS channels-- not enough bandwidth. UXGA-capable Thinkpads like the T61 have 4 LVDS channels.
How many channels does the X62 have?

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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#39 Post by NonesensE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:30 am

Update: I'll need a license to use the bridge for more than 4h, but the license is free. So I just ordered a screen and the conversion board. For everyone interested in details: I'll try Lattice CrossLink, using the LIF-MD6000 – Master Link Board and the OpenLDI LVDS to MIPI DSI Display Interface Bridge. And I'll fake the EDID with an Arduino.
axur-delmeria wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:52 am
@NonesensE

I doubt that a UXGA screen would work on an X61, as it only has 2 LVDS channels-- not enough bandwidth. UXGA-capable Thinkpads like the T61 have 4 LVDS channels.
The X6x (including the X62) have only one LVDS channel (with three lanes). And the T6x have two LVDS channels (i think, 3 lanes each as well, but with LVDS, the number of lanes only matters for colour depth). Yes, the bandwidth on the X series is somewhat limited, but this problem can be solved by reducing the refresh rate. LVDS lanes are specified for up to 1.2 Gbps which would theoretically be enough to use UXGA at >90Hz. In practice, I think 45Hz or so should work, as 60Hz SXGA+ works, too.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#40 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:54 am

My mistake, but 45Hz is a bit of an oddball refresh rate, don't you think?
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#41 Post by NonesensE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:40 am

It is, indeed, but does it matter? Probably not, at least for my use case. I never experienced problems with the slightly oddball 50Hz of an SXGA+ tablet, either.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#42 Post by dmdsoftware » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:12 am

I ordered a chassis with the SXGA+ screen that Jacky uses for his X62. It just arrived last night and I turned machine yet (need to transplant stuff into it first).

I wonder where he is getting his panels from. The case is brand new and still has the magnism shine.

I own a X62s that I built myself from a X61t SXGA+ screen that has the worst case of bubbles and glue leakage one could imagine. I'm actually typing on it now. You get used to it.

I also have another X61t machine that has a SXGA+ that has yet develop bubbles, but I haven't used it much (stored away safely since I bought it in 2008).
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#43 Post by fourthree » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:17 pm

We're talking about bezel cutting in this thread, if anyone's interested.

Another question: is the X200 fan the best fan, or is there a better aftermarket fan out there?
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#44 Post by wujstefan » Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:19 am

X62 users report X200 fan to be the best one.
If you ever had a X200 you surely noticed it's cool&quiet :)

EDIT: I have no time (and possibility) now to test it in my X62. Will surely do it if I decide not to sell it.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#45 Post by NonesensE » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:13 pm

fourthree wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:17 pm
We're talking about bezel cutting in this thread, if anyone's interested.
Thanks, that might indeed help with the UXGA conversion.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#46 Post by jaspen-meyer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:55 am

Giving some love to your x61, you could overclock the cpu.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#47 Post by fourthree » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:03 pm

jaspen-meyer wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:55 am
Giving some love to your x61, you could overclock the cpu.
Heh. That's the PLL mod, IIRC. Heat would be a significant issue.
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Re: Giving some love to my X61

#48 Post by fourthree » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:24 pm

fourthree wrote:
Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:03 pm
jaspen-meyer wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:55 am
Giving some love to your x61, you could overclock the cpu.
Heh. That's the PLL mod, IIRC. Heat would be a significant issue.
Although a Penryn CPU might help a little bit.

Also, let's talk panels. I dunno about any other 1400x1050 other than HV121P01, so here's an interesting one: http://www.panelook.com/G121XNE-L01_Inn ... 30015.html. Might lose some colors(?) due to not having enough pins, but might be pretty nice if it works.
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