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Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:21 am
by pgoelz
Guys,

Someone on the Windows 10 insider forum found a way to make the Trackpoint center button scroll work in Metro apps in Windows 10.

Go to:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insi ... 9321113938

and on page 4, look for user Hogera's post on December 5th.

For the first time in a year, the Trackpoint Center button scroll works in ALL apps including Metro, start and file manager in my Windows 10 installation.

Paul

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 8:40 am
by axur-delmeria
So it was just a matter of manually installing the driver via Device Manager?

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:46 am
by wileE
Not working for me. :(
Tried this on two X61 and on both Windows refuses to install the driver. Says latest driver is already installed.
Followed the instructions and also tried uninstalling the existing driver when it did not work.


EDIT

OK. Now it works. Thank you very much.

I had to select the driver manually from the list of options instead of selecting the folder with the driver. Going to post some screenshots later.

EDIT2

As navigating to the folder C:\DRIVERS\WIN\UltraNav\WinWDF\x64 did not work for me, this is what I did:

run dpinst.exe in the C:\DRIVERS\WIN\UltraNav\WinWDF\x64

then navigate to the driver as shown here:
big picture warning https://thinkpad-forum.de/threads/19360 ... nktioniert
It's in german, but Windows looks the same in other languages.

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:26 pm
by pgoelz
However you get there, the key is to manually install the WRONG driver. Although the X61s does not have any Synaptics devices and a normal UltraNav install fails, the Synaptics UltraNav driver DOES work with the X61s Trackpoint and is apparently Windows 10 compliant. When you force it to install, the driver detects the Trackpoint and uses it, leaving the touchpad part of the configuration window greyed out.

It remains to be seen if Windows Update will eventually replace the driver with the "correct" one.

I have two X61s. One has been running Windows 10 (insider builds) and one has remained on Windows 7 but I may just run a backup and then upgrade it since it has a faster CPU, an SSD and more RAM. I was holding out because I could not give up the Trackpoint scroll funciton but the rest of Windows 10 is not that bad, especially if you install Classic Shell.

Paul

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:24 pm
by wileE
pgoelz wrote: It remains to be seen if Windows Update will eventually replace the driver with the "correct" one.
I have installed the driver on 3 X61 now, restartet several times and run Windows update. No problems.

It is extremely unlikely for Lenovo to ever make a newer version of the trackpoint driver, so I would consider it equally unlikely for Windows to install a different driver.

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:04 pm
by pgoelz
wileE wrote:
pgoelz wrote: It remains to be seen if Windows Update will eventually replace the driver with the "correct" one.
I have installed the driver on 3 X61 now, restartet several times and run Windows update. No problems.

It is extremely unlikely for Lenovo to ever make a newer version of the trackpoint driver, so I would consider it equally unlikely for Windows to install a different driver.
My concern was that since Windows does not consider the Synaptics driver to be "correct" for the X61 it might try to replace it at some point. To test this, I went into device manager and clicked "update driver" and sure enough, it replaced it with the "PS2 Trackpoint" driver and killed center button scrolling in Metro apps. So it would seem likely that Windows update may eventually do the same.

However, the solution is fairly straightforward... just force another Synaptics driver install and reboot. Or maybe just click "roll back driver".

Good old Windows 10. Gets you one way or t'other.......

Paul

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:27 pm
by mr_yellow
hallelujah!

I'm going to give this a shot when I get home tonight.....

edit: this is awesome... my thinkpad suddenly has a new life to it... it's amazing how something so little can affect the usability of a device.

Re: Trackpoint center button scroll WORKS in Windows 10

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:18 pm
by wileE
The setting for scroll speed in the mouse menu doesn't stick. :(
After reboot it gets set back to 1. Ideas anyone?