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Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

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Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#1 Post by efg5 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:24 pm

Which runs faster on an X61s with 8GB of RAM — Windows 7 or Windows 10?

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Re: Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#2 Post by TPFanatic » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:22 pm

Both are "faster" in different areas.

10 can boot up faster than 7 with an SSD but gets sluggish when the background tasks take over, which they will, and all productivity is of course lost while it's updating. 7's desktop experience can be faster because you can disable pointless animations - you're stuck with them in 10 courtesy of Metro.

I have more experience with successfully locking down 7 to do what I want it to do and nothing more, so 7 has always been more productive for me. However, I was mostly content running an older version of 10 on a Yoga, after neutering its update system, although it all self destructed the first and final time I attempted to try updating 10 to a newer version. The time spent reinstalling the OS further counts against 10's productivity. As an addendum, the Yoga runs 7 now with all its Yoga features fully working.

Nuanced to an X61s, the machine has full driver support with 7, but it's basic enough that it works well with 10. 10's more aggressive background tasks will put a greater demand on the old Core 2 than whatever 7 does.

I'd toss it up to personal preference.
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Re: Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:50 am

W7 on most of my Thinkpads (X201/X230/X240/X250/T440p to mention a few) has run perfectly without ANY updates since 2016.
If I get another machine, I install W7/SP1 on it from the model-nearest Lenovo Recovery Set I have, find missing drivers if needed, and then block Update once and for all.
I don't even install any AV any longer, just manually update Windows Defender every once in a while.
Just to be sure, I also run the (free) Malwarebytes whenever I think of it.
Small sacrifices for otherwise great running machines that never bother me.
W7 can do everything I want, so as long as those machines last, their W7 OS will last with them.
W10 not in my life-time!
Any future OS-replacements will be delivered by Tux.
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Re: Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#4 Post by Shredder11 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:12 am

I've never installed Windows 10 on any of my desktops and laptops, but I will experiment with it at some point. However I will install Classic Shell to make it run like WIndows 7 when I do.

http://www.classicshell.net/ * Old original website no longer updated. Last version in December 2017 v4.3.1

https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/ * Current website with latest version in January 2020 v4.4.142
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Re: Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#5 Post by efg5 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:03 pm

Regarding just the desktop experience, it sounds like:

- You can't disable ("debloat"?) some of the Windows 10 components that significantly slow down the desktop experience (like Metro).

- Because of its aggressive self-updating behavior, even trying to keep a minimized or "debloated" version of Windows 10 is so much work that it isn't a very realistic option.

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Re: Windows 7 or Windows 10 for X61s?

#6 Post by Shredder11 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:15 pm

When I eventually install WIndows 10 for the first time, I will find out how to disable the update service and then use WSUS Offline which I have used for more than ten years.
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