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aside from processor differences, the dimensions between the X60 and X60S seem to be the same according to Lenovo website (I know TABOOK is most accurate).

edit: sorry I reversed the weight initially
X60 17065KU w/8 cell 1.83Ghz weighs 3.66, dimensions 0.80x8.3x10.5
X60S 17023QU w/8 cell 1.66Ghz weighs 3.51, dimensions 0.80x8.3x10.5

If they both are the same size, with one a little bit heavier, I'd definitely stay with the X60 with more power that weighs a tiny bit more, yet just as small.

X60s heavier?

That’s a new one.

I thought the X60s was supposed to be a little smaller and lighter?

me to... but his posts says otherwise

From Lenovo's site; from the description of the following 3 models:

Lenovo wrote:X60s - Model name 17023QU

Weight & dimensions
Weight[2] 3.51 lbs
Height 0.80 in
Depth 8.3 in
Width 10.5 in
Travel weight 3.46 lbs

X60 - Model name 17065KU

Weight & dimensions
Weight[2] 3.66 lbs
Height 0.80 in
Depth 8.3 in
Width 10.5 in
Travel weight 3.62 lbs

X60 - Model name 170685U

Weight & dimensions
Weight[2] 3.19 lbs
Height 0.80 in
Depth 8.3 in
Width 10.5 in
Travel weight 3.15 lbs

From Notebook Review: Lenovo ThinkPad X60 and X60s Announced (pics, specs)

Notebook Review wrote:* Dimensions:
X60: 10.5" x 8.3" x .83 - 1.39" (width x depth x thickness)
X60s: 10.5" x 8.3" x .83 - 1.11" (width x depth x thickness)
* Weight with 6-cell battery (without optical drive/with optical drive):
X60 - starting at 3.22lbs (11% lighter than X32)
X60s - starting at 2.54lbs (Japan) or 2.69lbs (rest of world) (7% lighter than X41)

Probably the variation in thickness is attributed to the wedge shape that makes the X60/s thinner at the front and thicker at the back. So the thin dimension in the front is the same, but the thick dimension at the back is different.

I don't think those specs are accurate. X60s is thinner and lighter. I would wait for the new TABOOK for real specs.
Andrew

davidlg16 wrote:aside from processor differences, the dimensions between the X60 and X60S seem to be the same according to Lenovo website (I know TABOOK is most accurate).

X60 17065KU w/8 cell 1.83Ghz weighs 3.51, dimensions 0.80x8.3x10.5
X60S 17023QU w/8 cell 1.66Ghz weighs 3.66, dimensions 0.80x8.3x10.5

If they both are the same size, with one a little bit heavier, I'd definitely stay with the X60 with more power that weighs a tiny bit more, yet just as small.

What Andrew said above is correct. X60s is the thinnest and lightest X series ever!! The "s" at the end stands for "Slim". If you look at the side pictures of X60 and compare them to X60s, you'll easily see the difference. X60 has "fat [censored]" i.e. it gets thicker towards the back compared to the front side.

Another difference between the X60 and X60s will be, that you can get selected X60s models with an 12.1" UltraLight XGA (1024x768) anti-glare 180 nits TFT-panel instead of the usual dimmer standard TFT-panel.

However, we have to wait and see how bright that UltraLight XGA TFT panel will then finally be, since no Thinkpad in reality ever meets the advertised brightness specs.

As an example from independent lab measurements for the Thinkpad X41 TFT panel:

Contrast min./enh. viewfield: 270:1/172:1
Luminance: 22...125 cd/m² (max. 125 nits)
Viewing angles horiz./vert.: 50°/ 60°, 25°

...and for the X41 Tablet PC TFT instead:

Contrast min./enh. viewfield: 604:1/558:1
Luminance: max. 124 cd/m² (max. 124 nits)
Viewing angles all directions: > 80°

...as one can easily see, most measured brightness/luminance specs are far away from the usual in the tabook etc. advertised luminance specs of 150 nits for X4x/X3x series models.

No need to say, that those lower as advertised brightness values do also apply to the other Thinkpads T-/R-/Z-series models with 14" or 15" FlexView or 15,4" MaxBright TFT panels. - Keep in mind that you will need at least a >=150 nits (cd/m² ) TFT-panel in order to make any use of it under normal outside daylight conditions.

So it will be interesting to see how well this 12,1" UltraLight XGA TFT will finally be.

I think the reason may be the the X60 is not all over bigger than the X60s - there are just bits that jut out of the bottom so possibly these are not being included in the dimensions (it is common to not include protrusions in dimensions however, I think this may be taking it to extremes).

the X60s is thinner, i used both an X60 and an X60s at CES and the regular X60 has a little bit of a thicker back end, im assuming to add a little extra heatsink to compensate for the faster proc.

Hey, is there more info on the X60s?

Where did you got the info that says that the ultralight tft's will only be on the X60s?

I would like to know, since I want to order one (In the Netherlands you don't have such a wide selection as in the US)


Btw, ill guess Lenovo will be at the Cebit?
If so .. Ill be there

vkyr wrote:
As an example from independent lab measurements for the Thinkpad X41 TFT panel:

Contrast min./enh. viewfield: 270:1/172:1
Luminance: 22...125 cd/m² (max. 125 nits)
Viewing angles horiz./vert.: 50°/ 60°, 25°

...and for the X41 Tablet PC TFT instead:

Contrast min./enh. viewfield: 604:1/558:1
Luminance: max. 124 cd/m² (max. 124 nits)
Viewing angles all directions: > 80°


So it will be interesting to see how well this 12,1" UltraLight XGA TFT will finally be.

WaHH, I'm learning so much stuff!

I wonder if there's a way to measure your own Nit.

Can't wait t'ill someone have it in their own hand so they can review the ultrlight tft

> I wonder if there's a way to measure your own Nit.

Yes there is a way, buy an Colorimeter from Gretagmacbeth or some other suiatable vendors one. The better Colorimeters accompanied software shows you also the cd/m² values for selected regions on your TFT panel, e.g. the area where you placed and adjusted the Colorimeter on.

@RS_003

Look into the tabook and on the X60(s) part lists when these will be available on the Lenovo website.